Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike pinto

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. W.marsh 23:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mike pinto

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Contested speedy; artist with one album and a claim to have been on a national tour. See article talk page. Doesn't seem notable enough to me, but bringing here for discussion. NawlinWiki 15:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. Non-notable. yandman 15:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Keep working hard, kid, and you'll make it to Wikipedia. In the meantime, doesn't meet WP:MUSIC guidelines. Powers T 15:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Nice music, like the guitar intro to "Tricky Nicky", of course subject is nowhere near meeting the standard of WP:BAND. Get a couple reviews/features, or better yet wait for your fans to write it. Darkspots 20:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Just to point this out, i am not Mike Pinto, that is not in anyway my music, and i do not take any credit for it. I am just a huge fan of his music and was suprised to see he did not have a wikipedia page, so i took the liberty to make him one, as for reviews, i posted some on the discussion page of the mike pinto, and below

There are numerous reviews at this link: Cdbaby.com reviews Here are just a few examples:

5 stars Reviewer: Sammy Snead / Rasta Roots Radio The first time I heard Mike Pinto’s solo Acoustic album, I was immediately intrigued by the passion and soul pouring from each song. This seven song demo cd is extremely authentic, pure and quietly epic. It was the top music investment to date in the 21st century, until now with Mike Pinto's debut album “Little District”. Produced in the heart of Philly with legendary hometown artist/producer Tim Sonnefeld from the band Townhall, this cd instantly raises the bar for any musician attempting to drop a flawless cd from start to finish. Mike shines with his remarkable story-telling songs such as "Bills Song" "Chilean Lover" and his instant classic "Tricky Nicky". This is the rare reggae/rock/latin/ska/dub release that's both gripping and touching. We all owe him a great amount of gratitude for giving the new music world hope.

5 Stars Reviewer: Mike from KY I am an avid collector of Reggae/Island/Party/Feel Good music. I own over 1000 CD's and Mike Pinto is one of the Best artist in Music today and one of the best CD's I own. He will definitely cross over to the mainstream audience once his music is discovered.Mike Pinto is making the best music available anywhere. If you haven't heard of his music you are really missing out on some of the most intelligent feel good music that is available. Don't hesitate and buy music from Mike Pinto and support creative music at its finest. Mainstream bands don't even hold a candle to him. Listen to it and you will become addicted to some really fantastic music with awesome feel good reggae vibes with a twist.One of the best song writers in the industry today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riptorfire (talk • contribs) 22:03, 4 December 2006

  • Quality does not equal notability. Mike from KY wrote: "He will definitely cross over to the mainstream audience once his music is discovered." If that's such a certainty, then you can write an article on him when that happens. Until then, he's not notable. Powers T 13:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment Riptorfire, these CDBaby.com reviews don't meet the broad standard of what a "published work" is. What we're looking for here is something that meets the standards discussed in Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Same deal with the national tour. If you can show how the tour was reported by multiple reliable sources, that could work, but a quick google search says no dice on that. Did the single chart, as Powers asked? If you can show us that the single charted, that could provide a keep for the article.
Just to note this one more time, a deletion finding here is no impediment to Pinto's eventual sucess or any sort of statement about his musical ability. People go to myspace.com to find new music to listen to, not wikipedia. The notability standards of Wikipedia are there to make the encyclopedia more useful for general readers, not to provide some sort of arbitrary stumbling block designed to impede the upward rise of bands. Darkspots 18:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment I see what you are saying, i think what i will do is copy all the coding, and maybe wait to see if Mike can hit a little more mainstream, because i reviewed the criteria, and while i do greatly enjoy his music, he really does not meet enough of the criteria. I believe it is ok to take this down, but maybe i can resurrect the article when Mike gets his name out there a little more, and meets Wikipedia's standards. Riptorfire

That's a good idea. You can keep the text in your User space if you like (for example, at User:Riptorfire/Mike Pinto. Powers T 02:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment ok i put it in my user space, so im all taken care of, hopefully mike can get his name out there so i can resurrect the article Riptorfire
  • Delete, does not meet WP:MUSIC. -- Steve Hart 14:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.