Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Prince

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Xoloz 14:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Matt Prince

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Contested prod. Non notable independent wrestler, no evidence of multiple independent non trivial reliable sources, fails WP:BIO. One Night In Hackney303 22:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per One Night In Hackney 303, the subject fails WP:BIO as it does not meet our low standards for inclusion. Burntsauce 16:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sr13 07:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, my opinion of most of CZW notwithstanding the fact he is a three time former heavyweight champion and two time Tournament of Death winner is strong grounds for notability among death match wrestling. He is at the very least a notable deathmatch wrestler and furthermore a notable indy wrestler. –– Lid(Talk) 11:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Perhaps you can provide multiple independent non trivial reliable sources then please? One Night In Hackney303 11:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Independent sources to show he held those titles? That seems like an odd request considering we use primary sources for title reigns. –– Lid(Talk) 11:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • No vote fake sport --Infrangible 19:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I dislike CZW and personally consider Wifebeater a no-talent hack but as Lid has pointed out he has achieved something as an indie wrestler, has something of a cult following and achieved a degree of infamy for his antics with an industrial strimmer. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 21:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Can you provide reliable sources demonstrating his notability then please? One Night In Hackney303 22:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep As per the others who have suggested keeping this article, I too am not fond of the guy or even that super extreme style of wrestling, but he is notable in that genre of wrestling, has a following, and has made major accomplishments in that style of "wrestling" as well. Oh, and One Night in Hackney, don't be an egg and ask me the same question you've asked everyone else. If you'd spend some of the time you spend working on Afd's on helping this project out by fixing articles like this one wikipedia would be a much better place. Remember that WP:IAR is also a policy, you should follow it as well. Theophilus75 22:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment So your application of WP:IAR is something like I say this personal is notable but I'm not prepared to provide reliable sources to prove it, so the article should just be kept? One Night In Hackney303 03:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Hey Hack, you recommend SO MANY wrestling articles for Afd that it would take 3-5 people working full time just to properly source the wrestling articles you Afd that I know could pass WP:BIO and WP:V without question. That doesn't count the ones that I'm not sure about or think might pass if one worked on them and just forgetting about the ones that do need deleted. What I'm saying is go work on your IRA stuff and let prowrestling project work on it...oh, and while I'm thinking about it...I was wondering if you could explain what you meant when you said you would have to take "more drastic measures" against the prowrestling Project? Theophilus75 22:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Please see WP:OWN, I'll edit what articles I see fit. If the pro wrestling project do not wish to nominate the hundreds of articles which do not meet Wikipedia guidelines, I'll be happy to do so. One Night In Hackney303 06:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Thanks for pointing that article out! Now that I've read it (and I assume you did before referring it to me), I now understand that I need to be looking for your comments and discussion on the talk pages of articles when you have an issue with them and that you WILL BE discussing things with the wrestling project before recommending them for deletion. I really appreciate your willingness to work with us. I'll be looking forward to your discussion, participation and help on those talk pages!!!! Theophilus75 21:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.