Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Machinism

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The result was Delete --JForget 23:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Machinism

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Non-notable neologism combined with speculation. --Snigbrook ^(talk) 14:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I do not agree. The notable neologism can be found in the Scientific American issue on robotics for a start and the article per se has nothing to do with speculation aldough it does contain speculation on its possible future existence. Even if the described being will never exist, I believe it should be possible to describe it. The name robot is not fitted for what it is, as it more generally describes machines with a program while a machinism is a living machine that follows its own evolution. Love010 (talk) 15:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. One use in SciAm does not make a neologism notable. There is no indication this word will become the widely accepted terminology for what is essentially already covered at cyborg. --Dhartung | Talk 19:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. A machinism is not a cyborg that consists partly out of organic matter. A machinism is a living machine while a cyborg is a cybernetic organism (i.e., an organism that has both artificial and natural systems). As there isn't yet a recognized word for it, I believe it would be best to keep the article intact untill a better word is found to describe what is being described by the word machinism. Love010 (talk) 19:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Delete If 'there isn't yet a recognized word for it', then that means it is a neologism. Wikipedia is not a publisher of original research or a crystal ball. --neonwhite user page talk 21:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Keep Aldough it is currently a neologism, I believe it should be possible to describe the meaning of the word on Wikipedia. Love010 (talk) 10:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

As i pointed out wikipedia is not a publisher of original research. --neonwhite user page talk 17:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

• Delete, WP:NEO, non notable. KleenupKrew (talk) 02:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge into Cyborg. Neologism Machinism (machine organism) and Cyborg (cybernetic organism) are almost synonymous. Zero Kitsune (talk) 04:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
• Merge to Artificial life. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Keep The meaning of machinism differs from Artificial life (Alife) because the word is used to describe a living machine while Alife is a field of study and an associated art form which examine systems related to life that may result in to machinisms eventually. Love010 (talk) 10:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep I agree that a machinism is not the same as a cyborg. It deserves to be described on wikipedia.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.140.140.25 (talk) 08:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC) — 62.140.140.25 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

If it has no sources then it isnt notable regardless of whether you believe it 'deserves' an article. --neonwhite user page talk 17:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

• Delete unsourced word use. Not every potentially meaningful phrase is a subject for an article. DGG (talk) 03:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: Completely unsourced neologism -- that citation is to an entire issue of Scientific American, and not to any particular article sourcing this.  RGTraynor  14:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: Per WP:NEO, fails WP:N and WP:RS. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 03:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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