Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lechai olamim

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was transwiki. It's currently listed to be transwiki'd. W.marsh 20:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lechai olamim

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  • Delete, this is the text of a prayer (spoken or sung, I don't know). It's the equivalent of song lyrics. Alternatively, as I assume it's out of copyright (nyuk nyuk) a Transwiki the Hebrew Wikisource would seem to be the best place for it. It certainly isn't an encyclopedic article about the prayer. What does it mean? Why is it sung/said? What is its origin? None of these are answered. --Dhartung | Talk 05:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Transwiki. This poem is part of my Jewish prayer service, and I have sung it to several different tunes. The first three lines translate roughly as follows:
The splendor and the faith belong to the Everlasting God.
The wisdom and the blessing belong to the Everlasting One.
The majesty and the greatness belong to the Everlasting One.

As an old Jewish prayer, it is not copyrighted, it is culturally relevant, so it is a perfect transwiki candidate. I suggest that its title in Hebrew should be האדרת והאמונה . YechielMan 18:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletions. --   ⇒ bsnowball  12:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 21:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Transwiki. --רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 21:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep but expand The prayer should include the Hebrew text version, a pernounciated version, and an English translation. Just because the article is short, Dhartung, it doesn't mean you go and delete it. It seems notable enough to me considering we have articles on a few Christan prayers. 71.76.205.168 11:35, 9 June 2007 (UTC) (AKA FinalWish
  • Transwiki. -- Y not? 13:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Definitely transwiki. If someone is up to writing an encyclopedic article answering the questions posed by Dhartung, then by all means, bring it back. -Yupik 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Transwiki. This is the text of a song, not an encyclopedia article. --Shirahadasha 16:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment As background information, this is a traditional song, not specifically a prayer. It is often sung on Simchat Torah and occassionally at the dinner table on Shabbat, where it is customary to sing traditional religious songs. It is the bare text of the song, not an encyclopedia article about it. I also wouldn't put it in the top two dozen most important or commonly-done songs; if we wanted to write articles on traditional Hebrew religious songs, we might want to start with some others first. --Shirahadasha 16:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.