Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lake Alice Hospital

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedily deleted as an unsourced and unsubstantiated attack upon an institution. This article can be recreated if verifiable and reliable sources can be provided for any claims made. (aeropagitica) 17:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lake Alice Hospital

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I tried to find third party, reputable sources, and it seems as if the hospital at least exists: [1]. However, I couldn't find anything to verify the salacious elements of the article that would make it notable. Without them, it's just another former hospital. It could be, though, that my Google skills are just not what the used to be. :) Gzkn 13:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - The events that are described in the article are real I think, because I found several sources to back up these claims, e.g. [2], [3] and [4]. Jayden54 14:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete as libel toward hospital staff, in that it makes completely unsourced claims that staff physically abused and raped children who were patients. This is a gross violation of WP:BLP. I would have blanked the article except that it is up for deletion. Such claims must be carefully sourced to multiple reliable, verifiable, and independent sources. This article has been around for 6 weeks or so without any references. I don't know if the crimes claimed occurred as described. If someone cares to find newspapers or court records substantiating abuses, a new article could be created, or the present one could be trashed and a new one written. The title should be changed to the actual name of the hospital. Citations should be referenced in the article, not listed here. The cites may not be to lurid blogs telling of "screams during ECT torture." They might yell beforehand, but people are knocked out by electroconvulsive therapy. The actual NZ papers or court records should be carefully cited, not the selective clips from the blog in the first link found by Jayden54. The second link does mention payouts to former patients. The third link I could not get to open. Edison 15:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.