Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Durden

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The article is reasonably well-sourced now, and it has been pointed out that his notability stems from more than just his candidacy in the Big Brother TV show. SalaSkan ^{(Review me)} 19:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jonathan Durden

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Non-noteable, failed Reality TV contestant. The article is full of trivia about Oompa-Loompas and cites sources from tabloid newspapers. He was only in Big Brother for 2 weeks and the article is unlikely to expand. I don't think being rich means you're noteable.Dalejenkins 16:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect to Big Brother 2007 (UK). Propaniac 17:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge any important information, then redirect per Propanic Conditional Keep If the article can be fleshed out more. --omtay38 20:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge or Delete, The Secret Millionaire series deserves an article better than this entry
• Merge to Big Brother 2007 (UK) Will ^(talk) 21:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep If he was only known for being on Big Brother I'd agree with a redirect, but since he's been on two notable programmes that doesn't seem appropriate (even if one doesn't have an article yet). The article obviously needs a lot of improving, but that's not a reason for deletion. Iain99 22:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC) PS removed the nonsense about Oompa-Loompas
• Keep I created this on the basis, that there were a large amount of sources about him, independant of his time on Big Brother, which certainly aren't relevant to Big Brother, he is known for other things, such as the journalism. I agree that the nonsense about the Oompa-Loompas isn't needed, I just copied over what was there. The article is still rather thin, but not for a lack of sources, rather a lack of filling out the article. John Hayes^talk 00:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Conditional Keep - As said above, if the article is filled out. John Hayes^talk 10:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, I think failed is a bit harsh, he left to attend a funeral. He had done stuff before entering the house and this stuff is not relevant for the BB article, leave it until the end of the series at least, and if he has been heard from then delete it. Darrenhusted 12:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

To be fair we can't keep it just because something might happen, but I feel there is enough in the article already (with a bit of filling out needed). John Hayes^talk 12:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. What a pointless article-not noteable. Bravedog 18:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, he has done a lot more than BB and I was pleased to be able to follow that up 88888 17:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment. But suerly there's so little infomation that it could be merged with the Big Brother article? Dalejenkins 08:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment I would disagree, as most of the information is not relevant to an article on Big Brother. John Hayes^talk 08:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment. So you're telling me that infomation about a Housemate's life can not be included in their biography section on the Big Brother series article in which they were in??? Dalejenkins 10:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

That's like arguing we should merge all the information on Tom Cruise into the Top Gun article. Neil ╦ 15:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes Dale that is exactly what I am saying, a lot of it has no relevance to an article on Big Brother, the Big Brother wikiproject is quite clear on what should and shouldn't be in an the housemates section. John Hayes^talk 17:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, published writer, appeared on multiple television programs, business owner. While just being on a gameshow does not necessarily make someone notable, it also does not mean someone notable for other works suddenly becomes non-notable; that would be silly. Neil ╦ 19:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.