Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Reily Knox

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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was ambiguous. There is not even a majority for outright deletion, so it stands between redirect and outright keep. There are seven votes to keep, five votes to delete and six votes to redirect. If I put the redirect and delete votes together we have 11-7 for discarding the content, which I will not call a consensus either. Also, I'm not sure if a redirect at this title to Beta Theta Pi would be really useful, or just confusing. Therefore, I will call this an outright keep (no consensus) for the time being. If anyone wants to merge or redirect, they may do so. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:34, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

And I have deleted it. This is a copyvio, and I can't believe nobody saw it before. All the Beta Theta Pi founder articles were created as copyvios back in February. Might want to put them on your watchlist so when they get recreated again you can redelete them. CryptoDerk 12:42, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] John Reily Knox

Minor, non-notable lawyer who founded some fraternity. Delete. Gamaliel 01:38, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep. Presidential electors are inherently notable. --Nicodemus75 02:23, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Name a famous one. --Tysto 05:55, 2005 August 24 (UTC)
Roger McBride who famously cast his vote for the Libertarians instead of Nixon and later went on to run for President on the Libertarian ticket.--Nicodemus75 06:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as per Nicodemus75. --Apyule 05:18, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete—Presidential electors are minor party functionaries. --Tysto 05:55, 2005 August 24 (UTC)
  • Redirect/Merge to Beta Theta Pi, which seems to be his primary achievement of note. --Alan Au 06:09, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as per Tysto. -- Kjkolb 12:01, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Beta Theta Pi per Alan Au. The existence of one Presidential elector whose action was notable does not confer notability on all the rest who rubber-stamped their states' decision, and being one of eight founders of a fraternity does not (in my opinion) rise to the level of meriting a WP bio article. Barno 15:21, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect as per Alan Au. Proto t c 15:43, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Founded major world-wide fraternity with major award named after him, not just "one of eight" founders but seemes to clearly be the most notable of the bunch. Also Presidential elector... Guerberj 18:49, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Beta Theta Pi per Alan Au. --Fang Aili 19:11, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect as above. --PhilipO 19:57, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep or redirect Trollderella 21:15, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. A presidential elector is a minor party functionary selected on the sole criteria of loyalty to the party. The average elector is about as notable as the average rubber stamp. --Carnildo 22:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Beta Theta Pi--Dysepsion 00:15, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Aside from the elector business, Beta Theta Pi acknowledges his leading role in the founding of a major fraternity. Rx StrangeLove 04:06, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Elector + fraternity founder adds up to "notable" as far as I'm concerned. Crypticfirefly 05:12, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete nn. --tranquileye 19:23:05, 2005-08-29 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.