Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Mikulik

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus -- RoySmith (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joe Mikulik

15 minutes of fame have expired. Zero reliable sources about this person, though ESPN et al. did air the footage - crz crztalk 17:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Note: I have since added links to several news articles about Mikulik. Only one of them was specifically about his tirade. I don't think it's true that there are "zero reliable sources" about him.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 17:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletions. - crz crztalk 17:38, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, so...he got really mad this one time? Recury 17:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Well, it was pretty funny... See Youtube link there... - crz crztalk 17:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The article chronicles one of the most memorable moments of American sports in 2006--Mikulik himself is not notable, but his tirade is--and the article is essentially about his tirade (we could re-name the article "Joe Mikulik tirade," but that just sounds lame). We do not have crystal balls. You might say he'll be forgotten next year. I say next time a baseball manager blows up, the ESPN wags will say he had a "Mikulik moment" or that he "went Mikulik." By the way, I consider this official team bio a reliable source and will add this reference to the article if it's not there already.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 17:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • It's not independent of him, Fat Man. When someone uses "Mikulik moment", call us back. Until then... - crz crztalk 17:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:N#Notability is generally permanent If there are multiple independent reliable published sources that have a topic as their subject, this is not changed by a lack of continued frequency of external coverage. . Neier 04:50, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete, article lacks proper sourcing and citing demonstrating notability. That we now know who the gent was does not mean that anybody will know without references 25 years down the line. Alf photoman 15:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete per Alf... Addhoc 12:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep: and rename to something per Fat Man. Neither "will be forgotten soon" nor "not well referenced" seem like good deletion reasons to me. If it's a big news-making event then it's notable. The Macarena will be forgotten someday too but that doesn't mean it should be deleted now. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:12, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.