Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Schembri

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 22:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Schembri

Jim Schembri (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Non-notable, autobiographical entry. While he does have some media links, that's pretty much only because he's a journalist: they usually do get such links. Severe WP:HOLE issues. The Evil Spartan 19:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete Not notable - and mostly edited by a user named Jimschembri... Hm... Wonder who that could be? TruthGal 21:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I tagged it to verify and for stubs. I'm not sure he's notable, and I did not pick up on the COI. Duh. Bearian 23:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Prominent and notable Melbourne-based journalist and film critic, long-time writer for The Age. Has 44,500 google hits. Any perceived COI/POV can be dealt with on the article page/article talk page.Melburnian 08:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - the majority of the Google hits are for online forums and articles by him; not the required reliable third-party sources about him. Gordonofcartoon 13:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Per Melbournian. Twenty Years 13:38, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - could those supporting Keep show us RS demonstrating his notability? Mentions in books, newspapers, press awards, etc? Gordonofcartoon 14:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Amazon.com shows that Schembri is an internationally published author of young adult books, and his writings on film have been widely cited in numerous books. --Canley 04:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Conditional keep - prominent and notable but suffering from COI edits. Keep pending cleanup by independent editors. Dbromage 05:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete based on only reference to date being a letter to the editor, albeit from George Miller (apparently) it still doesn't meet my reading of WP:RS. I agree with the comment by Gordon, where are the reliable sources?Garrie 06:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment - 6,150 articles[1] on the web site of The Age, the major daily newspaper in Melbourne which does not put all its articles online, including 767[2] news section articles and 433[3] op-ed pieces plus all the movie and TV reviews. A further 168[4] in the Sydney Morning Herald. 4 recent articles plus one other mention from the last month on Google News.[5] 21 citations in Google Scholar.[6] And the non-self published books going back to at least 1994 mentioned by Canley, most of which are in the State Library of Victoria[7] and National Library of Australia[8] ("permanent collections of several ... internationally significant libraries" - WP:BIO). I do not see notability as an issue but the autobiographical/COI nature of the article certainly is. However this can be cleaned up by independent editors. Dbromage 06:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The difficulty is, though, what can be said about him, when nothing reliably sourced is written about him? Certainly any kind of analysis of his review style/content would be OR. BTW, he appears not to be taking WP:COI seriously; I just had to revert his removal of the tags and reinstatement of the COI material. Gordonofcartoon 11:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete, appears to be prolific, but there seems to be very little material written about him, as opposed to by him. In the absence of reliable sources... (the COI doesn't help either) Lankiveil 12:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.