Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Muncy

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The result was delete. Majorly (talk) 17:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Muncy

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I don't see any real claim of notability for this professor, and there are no sources listed. Clarityfiend 18:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

• Conditional Keep, it's pretty borderline, but I support keeping it if a reference or two is added to verify his accomplishments (particularly the 'teacher of the year' award). --Xiaphias 19:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, "teacher of the year" (unless it's some national award) is not a claim to notability any more than "employee of the month" is. Possibly meets WP:N for his writing but we would want to see independent sources for the claims such as "widely distributed among peers". --Dhartung | Talk 19:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Looks like unsourced spam to me. Canuckle 23:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep Teacher of the year at a college is of course worthless for notability--it could be documented probably from their press releases--normally we accept the cv for that. It's a state college, not a university, but the articles in professional journals deserve a look, because if real they might establish notability. Rather than guess from the vague description in the paper, I found them on the web site and checked them in the citation indexes: of the 20 peer reviewed papers, the two most cited have 46 and 15 references respectively. People in this subject publish many minor papers, but I don't think this is really enough. The other possible factor is managing the Association for Consumer Research, claimed to be "the largest consumer research association in the world"--and might be --1700 academic members. (that's consumer research in the academic sense, not the Consumer Reports sense) It is a substantial organisation, and might well be worth a WP article. The major officers are reasonably distinguished academics at more important universities. He is the past Executive Secretary for 5 years, --the guy doing the work, but not the distinguished leader. This might just be enough. I've rewritten the article slightly to show what I've found and remove the spam. DGG 04:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —David Eppstein 22:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete teacher of the year ≠ notable; being the executive director of a (at best) marginally notable group of academics doesn't make you notable - there are literally thousands of these groups - and if 1800 members is a magical number presumably all of whom have real, full-time jobs at real institutions rather than in the group does that mean that anyone who is the head of a group of a group of 1800 part-timers with off-and-on again affiliation is notable? How many hours per year do these folks spend on this, 10? 40? 100? is 18,000 person-hours, 180,000 person-hours a measure of notability? The heads of county political committees, groups of candy-stripers at a large hospital, boy scout councils, pastors of large parishes, will likely be heads of organizations that exceed 1800 part time members, and gosh union stewards or managers at large comanies with full-time groups of less should also be notable on the person-hours measurement basis - say 1800 hours a year per full-time person, why 10 or 100 gets you to the magic 18k or 180k person-hours to be notable, maybe every class room teacher could reach that level of notability. C'mon, face it, this guy is nn. Carlossuarez46 16:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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