Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesse Dangerously

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep Kotepho 19:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesse Dangerously

Was PROD, but may meet WP:MUSIC (winner of a major music competition, may be "prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city") —Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 14:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

• Weak delete —Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 14:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
• I see a bunch of assertions of notability have been added since it was prodded. No opinion yet on those. There's a bunch of stuff related to Nerdcore hip hop that may be similiar- the folks on that talk page are asserting that since the movement is "underground", there won't be any reliable sources covering any of this. Nothing against this genre, but what's unverifiable can't be in an encyclopedia. Also, FWIW, apparently some of these people have taken to writing aritcles about themselves, see High-C for example. Friday (talk) 14:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Incidentally, most of those claims are adapted/copied from his website. —Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 14:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
• Not sure if this counts as being a national tour or anything, but I know he's playing in Vancouver (did play? I forget the date I was given), and he's apparently appeared on MuchMusic as well as getting airplay on CBC Radio. Can't research heavily right now, but I'll take a look later on.Tony Fox 16:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep after some research. He is in fact playing dates in Vancouver, Oregon, San Francisco and San Jose in the next couple of weeks (though they are listed on his LJ and aren't exactly huge venues), and did appear on MuchMusic's Going Coastal program in March. Can't find anything on CBC, but seems to be popular on some level. Borderline on WP:MUSIC, but seems to lean to the positive side juuuuust a bit.Tony Fox 04:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the correct format here is, I'm sorry, but I wanted to say that the reason the info is mostly copied/pasted from Jesse's website is that I was too lazy to re-write it. Oh, and also to say that Jesse also has a weekly hip-hop column in Halifax's Daily News. You can check it out here: http://hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?cid=45 . He's not just a nerdcore rapper! Not even. Lefty Lucy

• Copy/paste from another source can be problematic at times. I'll try to give it a rewrite when I get home from work and see if it helps things.Tony Fox 16:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  • There. Cleaner, at least. I leave it to the mighty purveyors of pages from there. Tony Fox 00:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. The very basis of this genre is indy, DIY, self-produced and self-released artists. Many notable nerdcore artists will probably never release on any label whatsoever. Jason Gortician 01:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, now that it's been rewritten (Good job, Tony). A lot of the music stuff just skirts around the fringes of WP:MUSIC (especially C1.3, C1.9, and C1.12), and I went back and forth on it a couple times, but the newspaper column clearly qualifies him under WP:BIO's requirements for writers (circulation figures here). All's well that ends well. -Colin Kimbrell 03:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• I'll have to go with the keep here. Although I admit that it's surfing close to the line in some respects, I can't and won't put an artist I've actually heard on the radio with my own ears on the delete side of the line. (And besides, I'm down with anything that actually inspires Lefty Lucy to become a Wikipedia contributor.) Bearcat 16:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep does pass WP:MUSIC, and is verifiable, in my opinion. For that matter I think the verifiability clauses are mostly crap, since they tend to encourage wikipedia turning into a lame mash-up of the New York Times and Wired, which is not anything the world has been particular clamoring for. Perle 03:02, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.