Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenna Haze Oil Orgy

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Coredesat 03:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jenna Haze Oil Orgy

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Warning to those of a sensitive disposition or editing from work: page contains a pornographic image. Contested speedy deletion under somewhat dubious circumstances (see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Rlk89). As "the first Blu-Ray porn film" is, I suppose, a vague assertion of notability - and any prod is bound to be contested - bringing it here. Personally, I don't think "first released in a particular medium" is a sufficient assertion of notability, given the sheer number of different video/film formats there have been over the years (and the fact that the first in any given format will almost certainly vary country-by-country), but others may beg to differ. — iridescent 16:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete Claim is unsourced to any independent and reliable sources, without verification to this claim, there is nothing left except an article about an entirely non-notable porn film. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 16:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete Even if being the first blu-ray porn movie was notable the article contains no verifiable sources that could confirm this claim. TonyBallioni 17:23, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment It seems that there is some truth (SFW) to the claim that it's the first porn movie produced for Blu-Ray. (See also this article (SFW), this one (VERY NSFW), here (SFW) and here (SFW).) It wasn't the first released, as a re-release of Debbie Does Dallas holds that distinction. A fairly quick Google search turns these up, and these aren't all that it turns up. LaMenta3 19:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, as said before, first blu-ray porn movie is a not the most notable distinction in the world. Axem Titanium 20:00, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge & redirect to Jenna Haze, if there is anything to merge not already contained in the mention in Jenna Haze#Pornographic film career. --Stormie 22:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. No sources provided to verify claims of notability. • Gene93k 00:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Epbr123 01:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k 01:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Desperately trying to resist the urge to speedy it. Unsupported and highly dubious claim of very minimal notability. I question whether that tidbit would even merit inclusion in a "Trivia" list about the actors or production company and wholeheartedly debate the claim that this in any way warrants an entire article about the fact. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per the sources found by User:LaMenta3. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I am not convinced that even if it were proven to be the first porn film to be released on blu-ray that that would in itself be notable; the first porn film on video was notable as it marked a watershed which changed the course of the industry as anyone who has seen Boogie Nights will know and the first porn film on HD could similarly be considered a watershed moment but the first film on a variant of a format? - this is when it gets less easy to argue. • nancy • 19:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Minor correction/clarification: This was the first porn film produced for HD; the first one released was a republishing of Debbie Does Dallas. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Well referenced first. Adult films may very well establish which HD format is successful. So notability is clearly established. The above deletes are based on no references, but they are now there. Vegaswikian 07:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
    No, the above deletes are based upon the belief that being the first pornography film produced for high-definition (not even the first released in HD) is not a distinction of notability. The lack of sources to support this claim was merely an additional reason cited alongside the lacking notability to advocate deletion. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep the first of anything is notable. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 07:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
    The first cheeseburger I ate? -- AmiDaniel (talk) 08:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
    nice try but no, because your not notable. However, the first cheeseburger would be. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 03:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect to Jenna Haze seems like the best option here.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 10:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.