Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Schoep

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete - While a nose count does not reveal a clear consensus to delete, the arguments in favour of deletion are strong. The arguments in favour of keeping made by Fogster and Bugg42 really apply to the notability of the organization, not the person. Notability is not inherited full strength. Further, (to Travellingcari) if no one can be found to work on an article to make it balanced, then it should be deleted to avoid undue weight. Absent a positive consensus to keep, deletion of this borderline notable BLP is the right outcome. ++Lar: t/c 18:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jeff Schoep

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Does not meet notability. After lancing out BLP issues, there's nothing left of this article, except him calling immigrants bad names, which violates undue weight. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 03:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Comment there appear to be some sources that might provide material to work from. While I know WP isn't censored, I personally choose not to help and expand the articles of those whose beliefs I profoundly disagree with but someone might want to tackle it TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 04:11, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. No reliable information, and it's unclear what the author is getting at. Dwilso 05:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - The article needs expanding, not deleting. Ecoleetage (talk) 16:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - he appears to be notable due to serving as the leader of a leading neo-Nazi party. However if there aren't any good sources about him, and if the article is the target of vandalism, then we should probably delete it until better sources are available ·:· Will Beback ·:· 05:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete due to lack of notability. Article could be recreated in future if multiple independent sources come to light. Sheffield Steel^talk_stalk 19:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment there are multiple sources, I don't think that's the issue but rather WP:UNDUE as the nom suggested. What is there to say about his life other then the fact that he's apparently a neo-Nazi TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 19:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Reluctant keep - While I find this guy's views repulsive and a part of me hopes this ends up deleted, he leads a notable group (National Socialist Movement (United States)), and has been "recognized" by the Southern Poverty Law Center. It's a stub of an article, but really, I think he is notable. Fogster (talk) 15:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep for many of the same reasons Fogster identified. This needs to be expanded, and not removed. This guy can't simply be ignored, as his group is in the news for their activities (they're marching on DC today, to celebrate Hitler's birthday) and I personally turned to wikipedia to try to learn more about him and his group. Bugg42 (talk) 13:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.