Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Rhine

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Please defer merge discussion to article talk page. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Rhine

There's nothing in this article to suggest notability outside of Big Brother. _{talk to} JD ^{wants e-mail} 22:09, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

• James Rhine. True, probably NN outside of BB, but has plenty of ghits, some of them semi-respectable news/entertainment sources. (|-- UlTiMuS 23:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete No one outside of Big Brother knows who this [personal attack removed] is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.48.99.182 (talk • contribs)
• Keep per myself above. (|-- UlTiMuS 23:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect/Merge: A recent AfD for Drew Daniel (winner of a BB season) resulted in Merge/Redirect pertinent info with the episode article. Consensus was that seperate contestants on the show without their own WP:BIO notability (aside from appearing on the show) don't warrant seperate articles. I don't see why the same logic can't apply here. ju66l3r 23:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Person is notable for repeat involvement in hit show. Nomination reason is illogical. Basically nom is saying "Subject is not notable for anything except what they're notable for". --Rob 23:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that all this person has done is appeared in a reality television show, and according to the article, not much else. Appearing on Big Brother doesn't automatically make a person worthy of having an article. _{talk to} JD ^{wants e-mail} 23:13, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Ok JD you're right lets get rid of every single Reality contestant who has only done Reality TV. NOT that is stupid. Kaysar from Big Brother 6 should have his on article because he was one of the major players in that game --Kevmicester2000 01:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
      • I didn't say that either. This guy, James Rhine, has an article. In that article is only information about his time in the Big Brother House. This information should be where it belongs - on the article of the season or seasons that he took part in. The article isn't meant to be about his time in the Big Brother House, it's meant to be about him; and when you take away the Big Brother information, there's nothing left to suggest that he is notable enough to have his own article. _{talk to} JD ^{wants e-mail} 01:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This is basically copied from the List of Big Brother houseguests (USA season 7) article. He hasn't done anything unique that people know him for outside of the house. The article also goes against WP:BIGBRO guidelines about housemate articles. Geoking66 02:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• Since you put it like that I agree with you I'm sorry about my rant --Kevmicester2000 02:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Subject is at least as notable as Josh Logan who survived deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josh Logan. Logan is from Rock Star: Supernova, while this subject is from 2 seasons of Big Brother, which is a more notable (based on longevity and ratings and global duplication) series. The article may meed some work, but notability should not be in question. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect/Merge The information in this article can be found in the Big Brother pages. A-Supreme 03:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep As per After Midnight, James is at least as notable as Josh Logan. He's appeared on not just one but two seasons of a popular television show. The article on him certainly could be expanded more with additional information about his biography or other activites, but certainly that's no reason to delete it. --Benjaminx 05:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Well known and notable in media and general population of his region. Unitedroad 12:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fancruft. Big Brother narratives involves many people, and it's best to keep it on in a coherent place: the main article for that series. The JPS^{talk to me} 15:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment/Question - For those who suggest Delete/Redirect/Merge and that the information should go on the "page for the show". This is an unique case where the individual appears in 2 seasons as a contestant, so would you duplicate the information on both the Season 6 and the Season 7 pages? That would seem to get things out of synch to me. How would you suggest to resolve? --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 15:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I would set this page as a redirect to the article of the first series the guy appeared in, then put a note or something in his section of that article saying he was also in Big Brother 7: All-Stars, and link it to that article. _{talk to} JD ^{wants e-mail} 17:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    • But then what would you put in his article? If it's in the Big Brother series page, it surely should contain information about his actions in the house. If it's only going in one page though, it would be really wierd to see information about Big Brother 7 on the Big Brother 6 page or vice-versa. Since he's appeared on two different seasons of a popular show, I think it's important for him to have his own article. --Benjaminx 23:25, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment This article is useless. There is a subsection for James on both series six and series seven's pages. Geoking66 01:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, he's been on Big Brother for two seasons. bbx 06:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.