Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Negotiation Institute

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The result was delete. Neıl ☎ 12:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] International Negotiation Institute

International Negotiation Institute (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

I did some searching for this organization, and I honestly couldn't find much beyond directory mentions and the like - nothing significant from second or third party sources. This appears to fail WP:CORP. I don't see the recognition purported in the article. [1] and [2]. The latter appears reliable - but it's just a single source. Also [3]. Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - There also appears to be a WP:COI issue with the article. Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable PR. Agree about the COI -- 12:38 am? Who would know that? Renee (talk) 01:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. This org was just started a couple of months age. Fails WP:ORG. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep — The organization clearly exists. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 02:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
    Kurt, are you being facetious? The issue isn't WP:V. Wisdom89 (T / C) 03:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
    It should be, since that's the only relevant, important issue. Nothing else properly matters. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 03:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
    I'm sure there are garage bands out there who exist, and who can be verified on myspace, do they deserve their own article in spite of WP:MUSIC? Wisdom89 (T / C) 03:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
    Yes, of course. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 04:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Disregard all of Kurt Weber's endorsements He is being purposefully disruptive of the AfD process in order to make a point. DarkAudit (talk) 04:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
As often as he wanders into AfD with nothing but "it exists" as his rationale, he is being disruptive and pointy. DarkAudit (talk) 16:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:CORP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ketsuekigata (talk • contribs)
  • Delete per nom. Minkythecat (talk) 07:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete: Hoax article, fails WP:CORP going away. Only 22 G-hits, and almost all of them seem to refer to an (equally obscure) eponymous outfit based in New Jersey. Note also that the Google links given above are dated well before the foundation of this purported organization, and that the weblink in the article doesn't work. Finally, I was suspicious too of the timestamp given for the alleged incorporation, and coincidentally researching Massachusetts incorporations has been a part of my job for years. The Massachusetts Secretary of State's office has no record of this outfit. [4] Perhaps Kurt Weber has some information unapparent to the rest of us?  RGTraynor  14:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Isn't the fact that the website goes to a domain holding page - a bit clue that's it's a lot of bollocks? --87.114.37.6 (talk) 14:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
It is, but not conclusive, given that the outfit was purportedly incorporated only three months ago.  RGTraynor  14:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
While it was only incorporate in 2008, it claims to have been founded in 2007, highly unlikely that it would not have produced a website in that time period. --87.112.225.5 (talk) 15:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added to comply with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 15:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per Stifle.Divinediscourse (talk) 22:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
  • KEEP RGTraynor, the Federal ID Number for the ORG is 000969016. I did some research, if you search the massachusetts corporate database you will find it. It is a registered non profit. MassRec (talk) 02:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: Odd it's not listed in the database under its actual name, but that's a minor fillip. What is considerably more of a scream is that for a lark, I decided to track down the listed address of this organization, "Suite 4," 19 Westbourne Terrace, in Brookline MA. According to this listing [5], it's a single bedroom condo currently on the market. So, MassRec, what policy grounds are you citing to support a Keep?  RGTraynor  04:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: RGTraynor I am not trying to be argumentative, but it is listed as International Negotiation Institute Corporation.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.