Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ichthux

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was RESULT delete. Rlevse 00:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ichthux

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Fails to show any notability and a bit of time spent searching turns up nothing more than the official sites, a few blogs and a few forums, and per some comments on the prior 'group' nomination, I am relisting this and Ubuntu Christian Edition seperately. Localzuk(talk) 12:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per above. Onnaghar (Talk) 20:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Merge into a page Religiously Orientated Distributions.

a) These (Ubuntu Christian Edition, Ichthux, Ubuntu Muslim Edition, etc) are currently niche distros. They have been reviewed in media that is orienated towards the target religious group.

b) The difference between Linux (religious flavour) and Linux (music flavour) is simply one of what the target audience is. If there is no justification for Linux (religious distribution) because of apt-get, then there is no justification for Linux (music) , Linux (security) etc, becuase apt-get will provide the same functionallity.

c) Ubuntu (or any other "mainstream" Linux distro), is for the general user. Linux (religious flavour) is targeted at non-Linux users within that niche (religious) group.

d) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pseudo_daoist/Religious_Distros is a draft of what Religiously Orientated Distributions could cover.jonathon 21:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The problem with that page, as I see it, is that no notability is shown except a single niche (as in specific to only the religion) publication covering a single derivative distro. This isn't 'random pet project linux distro-pedia', we have to maintain notability.-Localzuk(talk) 22:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm still working on that page. I didn't expect the AfD for these to come up before the discussion about whether to merge them into Ubuntu (linux Distribution) had taken placejonathon 07:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, for the same reasons I outlined in the AFD for Ubuntu Christian Edition: I can easily 'apt-cache search bible' and apt-get install the resulting package names. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 17:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Apt-get might work as a replacement for this distro --- if users have a list of programs that are Christian orientated. There is a program for tracking prayers for Christians, that was written for Linux. (I don't know why neither Ubuntu CE & Ichthux include it). It isn't in either the Debian or Ubuntu repository. (Neither is the one for determing when to pray if one is Jewish. There is one for determing when to pray, if one is a Muslim. The latter is there because of Ubuntu Muslim Edition.)jonathon 23:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep (Leave), for same reasons I outlined in the AFD for Ubuntu CE. Whether or not this can be obtained using Apt-get makes no difference as to whether this is a real distro Wikipedia can mention. Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu can all be obtained via apt-get after installing Ubuntu - does this make them not real distributions and unworthy of a Wikipedia entry? And who decides what is worth writing about in Wikipedia? There are articles about all sorts of crazy, obscure things here, should they all be deleted? If someone considers it worth the time to write a page on, and the info in the page is true, leave it. Someone else might be interested in reading it. If you aren't personally interested in the distro you don't have to read the article.Sjdennis2 11:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Note to closing admin, the above user has only ever made 7 edits, mostly to this and another related AFD.-Localzuk(talk) 13:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
      • That does not mean that their opinion is not valid.--Mhancoc7 02:54, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Well done Localzuk, you have done your research, and once in the past you too had only made 7 edits. If you have any objections to what I actually wrote, please feel free to write this here. Otherwise please refrain from criticising my edit using an irrelevant personal attack. Sjdennis2 15:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:10, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
A border case ... producing a Ubuntu or a Debian distro is pretty easy. I think, if the article is for real and not an elaborate hoax like "Jesux", then it definitely doesn't deserve it's own article, but rather a small section in a lengthier article on specializing distros. The distro's official links are obviously in a very bad shape, so it should probably be regarded as a try to start a special distro. I think merge somewhere, but to where?? Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 16:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Ichthux is a legitimate distribution. It was originally based on Koppix, not Ubuntu. It was the first religiously orientated Linux distro to be publicly released. My suggestion is to create a new article Religiously Orientated Distributions, and merge it into that. (Depending upon how "distro" is defined, between 5 and 10 religiously orientated distributions are currently available. jonathon 16:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Weak delete. Lacks reliable third-party published sources--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 09:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.