Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giubbe Rosse

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Paloma Walker 03:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Giubbe Rosse

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The actual importance of this café is not supported by sources, while in the latter part the article looks and feels like spam for their publishing activity. The unique contributor to the article, Contributions/Poetry62 is also a contributor (often the main or unique one) to several articles about authors published by Giubbe Rosse: Menotti Lerro, qualified as "the youngest author of the Giubbe Rosse's collection" (which I am going to propose for speedy deletion after this debate), Silvano Zoi (similar to the previous one), Vittorio Vettori and several other ones of dubious notability. Goochelaar 11:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

My opinion

Dear friend, my idea of project was to improuve all the authours as much as possible. I love my town: Florence, I love Giubbe Rosse, and I love poets.

The reason because I improuved more one article than others is because Lerro has many pages on internet talking of him and also because I use to read his poetry, considering him a young and clever author and if Giorgio Bàrberi Squarotti (the main italian critic) and Roberto Carifi affirm it, I think we can trust them...

Well, about the notability of Giubbe Rosse... If you read the page about Eugenio Montale you will find also the word Giubbe Rosse inside, claiming the important and historical role it played in Italy and for our literature. Moreover in the actual 'collana Giubbe Rosse' is published the book of Mario Luzi (the most important italian writer we had in the last 50 years), and if Luzi published his last book here before to die, I think there is probably a reason...

My Idea was - when I had time - to improuve as much as possible - all the Giubbe Rosse's authors and some one I think could also help to improuve it, as happen for many stubs...

In conclusion, I just want invite you, before to affirm about the "dubious notability of Vittorio Vettori", to do some more search about this author because his notability is impossible to hide.

The same we can still say about Manlio Sgalambro and others.

Best regards

Poetry 62—Preceding unsigned comment added by Poetry62 (talk • contribs)

• Keep per Poetry 62's arguments. This third party English language source [1] describes the following sentence: "In 1865, Florence was chosen to be the capital of the Kingdom of Italy, and remained capital until 1871. In later years and until the beginning of the twentieth century, Florence was famous for its literary happenings, that produced works such as Pinocchio and which brought writers such as Papini, Palazzeschi, Pratolini to the fore, who were all members of the historical Literary Caffè "Giubbe Rosse"." The following Google-tranlated Italian souce writes about its notable history. [2]. This appears like a notable Florence cafe, especially to the literary world. --Oakshade 03:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 11:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep but needs reworked. Notability seems established but at the moment it's not terribly useful as an article, rather than as a notable topic. StuartDouglas 12:45, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. I think there could be sources for this; seems to be verifiable. Abeg92contribs 16:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per everyone else. Acalamari 18:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Sources are weak, needs work. But I'll give the benefit of the doubt. Realkyhick 22:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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