Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Furtling (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Singularity 01:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Furtling

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Non-notable neologism. Guerrilla advertising for a book and a brewery. If it can be shown that the word had this usage in the 20th century let alone the 19th, then I would change to "weak keep". (I have restored all previous versions. Note that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Furtling had a "weak keep" result but the article was deleted a few days later as an expired prod.) -- RHaworth 20:56, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about it being a neologism (what's the cut off point for the "neo" bit? :) ). It is certainly a colloquialism used in my part of the world (NW England) and has been for many years. It was actually a stock in trade utterance of the English raconteur Blaster Bates who was professionally active during the 60s and 70s. Anyone who's heard any of his material would recognise the expression. Though the interpretation round here is non-sexual and is just a generalised euphemism for "rummage about". WebHamster 21:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NEO. Zouavman Le Zouave 21:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I agree with the guerrilla advertisement. Also the article is poorly written, which is a standard in SPAM articles...hit and run is what they do. Brusegadi 02:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. The article was written by Tiffany McKirdy. There is also a Tiffany McKirdy, marketing manager for drinks manufacturer Fentimans. What a coincidence. -- RHaworth 07:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment.This is not a coincidence. Neither is it a 'hit and run'. Since Fentimans was introduced to the idea of furtling, I have had an intellectual interest in the etymology of this word. My academic background (despite my poor writing skills) is in English Literature and I had hoped that by making a contribution to Wikipedia, this would result in some concrete evidence of the early use of the term 'furtling'. I was not contributing under a pseudonym and I have no vested interest in promoting the book, which I came across while researching the term. I would be happy to see the final paragraph removed, although it seems relevant that this expression is being used in 2007 in a similar way to its earlier application. I would like to add the Blaster Bates reference and expand and improve this article.Tiffany McKirdy 15:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable neologism. JIP | Talk 07:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete neologism, unsourced, disguised advertisement. Melsaran 13:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: Part of the reason for the unopposed prod so soon after the previous AfD were some comments on the talk page that brought the legitimacy of the sources to question. The talk page, of course, was deleted together with the article. I've restored it for now, but just for the record, I'll also copy the relevant comments (of which the former was actually first posted by the anon into the article itself) below:

  Furtling is probably a hoax. Silver Burton's book is the only source of the ref in Encyclopaedia of Unusual Sex Practices. Burton is the author of Kokigami, which describes the art of wrapping the penis in paper costumes, and Why Cats Paint: A Theory of Feline Aesthetics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.35 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

  This word is simply UK slang for "fiddling around": eg "furtling around for change in my pocket." This article appears to be based on a joke from a humorous book, no other ref except the Encyclopedia of Unusual Sex Practices, which simply repeats the definition given in the book verbatim. -- The Anome 17:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 12:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

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