Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/February 12, 1809

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 12:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] February 12, 1809

Originally transformed into a redirect to February 12 [1]; reverted [2]. Subsequently {{prod}}ded [3] citing "Superflous and duplicitive of February 12; a weak combination of opinion and minutae."; reverted [4].

Despite apparent effort and a great many external and internal links, this is still a article which, once NPOV'd and cleaned up, amounts to "the birthday of two important historical figures". Much of the information about the importance of the historical figures in question should be (provided it isn't already) included in their articles: their accomplishments and importance do not confer importance, notability, or paticular significance to their birthdate. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 21:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Unlikely anyone will randomly search for this specific date and be surprised at what they find. Contains nothing that isn't (or couldn't) be on the normal Feb 12 page, or the relevant biographic articles. Keeping would set a bad precedent (and I'm not talking about GWB). The JPS^{talk to me} 21:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and JPS. NawlinWiki 21:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per JPS, no encyclopedic reason at all for this article. -- H·G (^words/_works) 22:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Per The JPS, and it's unencyclopedic article, and it's just Date and year. *~Daniel~* ☎ 23:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per nom and JPS. Essence of article already noted in February 12. –NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 23:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --BookLover 05:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Yeah, I wrote the article. February 12, 1809 is probably the most important birthday of multiple persons in history. Maybe that's trivia, but IMHO it's at least as worthy an article as a lot of other stuff on Wikipedia. Krakatoa 07:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • The notion that I can simply put the information in this article in other articles appears not to be true. When I attempted to add to the "Darwin Day" article this information, it was promptly reverted:[5]
    • Darwin Day falls on the same date as Lincoln's Birthday. Both Darwin and American president Abraham Lincoln were born on February 12, 1809. The organizers of the Darwin Day Celebration planned to celebrate the bicentennial of Darwin's birth in 2009, have written, "Lincoln freed American slaves from physical servitude while Darwin freed the human mind from the bonds of supernatural dogma. The positive influences of their legacies are as relevant in the world today as they were in the 1800s." [6] Both Darwin and Lincoln were on several lists of the 100 most influential persons of the second millennium A.D. (1001-2000), including those compiled by the Biography television series [7], where they were ranked as Nos. 4 and 23, and Life magazine [8], where they were ranked as Nos. 9 and 35.
  • Likewise, when I attempted to add to the Charles Darwin article simply "American president Abraham Lincoln was born on the same date." that was promptly reverted.[9] If this article is deleted, the information in it dies.Krakatoa 12:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC) I see that there was a debate about this some time ago, and most users agreed NOT to include the birthdate-coincidence in the Darwin article. [10] Krakatoa 20:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I get 140,000 hits when I Google the following: Lincoln Darwin 1809 (birthday OR birthdate OR birth OR born)! [11] It seems to me that if the general population has that much interest in the matter (or a substantial fraction of that; I'll stipulate that some of these presumably are about something other than the birthdate coincidence, although I threw in the "1809" to try to minimize these), it's worth a one-paragraph article on Wikipedia. The Google hits and the above-cited debate in the Darwin talk pages show there's considerable interest in the thing. Why is it so important to delete this one-paragraph article? Krakatoa 20:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete the releant fact is availible at February 12#Birthdays or by manually comparing the Charles Darwin and Abraham Lincoln articles, so it will not be lost. The other trivia is simply trivial and the relevant facts can be (and are) mentioned in the articles on the respective subjects. It's just that Darwin trivia is irrelevant to Lincoln and vice versa see Talk:Charles Darwin/Lincoln Eluchil404 21:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.