Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Euronat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep, nomination withdrawn. Yanksox 02:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Euronat

Organization was never really active. Delete. Nomination withdrawn. Intangible 23:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom KleenupKrew 23:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom -- getcrunkjuice^contribs 00:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Inasmuch as quasi-fascists provide handily-found information online (which is to say, they generally don't), what information do you have that the organization wasn't "ever really active" or, for that manner, is no longer in existence? The Tom 01:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Searching the archives of Le Monde or Le Figaro results in the 1998 news of Le Pen wanting to create an internationalist (youth) movement and another news clipping in 2002 saying that Le Pen's actions were in vain. Furthermore, I do not know how I can prove a negative with a positive. Intangible 02:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. 1) There seem to be printed references about the organisation (see article) + the Front National's web site has a page on it, so it must have existed sometime. 2) Even if the organisation never really was able to take off, the fact that 1. Le Pen tried to found it and 2. didn't succeed, has enough significance to keep a Wikipedia article about it. It would be nice however it the article grew a bit above the level of a stub. --LucVerhelst 09:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. What Front National web site? Of its youth organization? Intangible 12:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment : Exactly. I was referring to the website which is linked from within the article. There is also this page, on the website of Front National proper : Le Front National - Les Organigrammes - Services Rattachés. Look under the heading La Direction aux Affaires Etrangères : "Le rôle de ce service est d’entretenir des relations suivies avec les partis nationaux dans les autres pays, notamment en Europe, à travers la structure Euronat." (The role of this service is to maintain relations with national parties in other countries in Europe, through the Euronat structure.) --LucVerhelst 14:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per LucVerhelst. Jobjörn 12:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - at least two books about Euronat have been published so it would be bad to delete the article. // Liftarn
• Keep - It was a tentative, Wikipedia does not only register success but also failures... IF there is two books & there really was an attempt by Le Pen, although it failed, than it's definitely notable enough. Beside, it's not that surprising that it failed, since although those parties may agree on common far-right policies, national interest necessarily divides them... the paradox of a "International of nationalist movement" is not new, and was tried by Mussolini... Tazmaniacs 19:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, although more references would be very helpful. Stifle (talk) 21:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, You can't delete history, even if you disagree with what has happened. Hauser 01:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

• Comment : See also the EuroNat Manifesto, signed at the first EuroNat meeting at Paris 9 th October 2005 by Jean-Michel Girard (international secretary, Front National), Nick Griffin (chairman, British National Party), Luca Romagnoli (chairman, Fiamma Tricolore), Michiel Smit (chairman, Nieuw Rechts), Vávra Suk (party secretary, Nationaldemokraterna) and Manuel Canduela (chairman, Democracia Nacional).EuroNat Manifesto --LucVerhelst 14:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment.The article needs to updated to reflect the current organization. Intangible 14:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.