Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dmitry Gribanoff

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The result was Delete. —Wknight94 (talk) 11:29, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dmitry Gribanoff

Does not seem to be notable. One of his movies is a student assignment, another is a $3000 yourtube porno Alex Bakharev 03:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. But: if kept, needs a lot of work. Perhaps also needs renaming, though the "ff" spelling is what the guy wants himself. For once, I am going against Alex Bakharev. I can imagine why he thought that that one movie was a student assignment: there is no birth date here. The reason why I think deletion is a bit too early now: the guy's website. He lists a number of films there, and mentions his involvement in other fields. I do not like the fact that Sister's Kiss was started in 1999 (only 12 minutes then), but everything depends on how that is received. The guy stopped working on his website in 2003, so some other things he did are missing ([1]). Cherry on the cake, if this guyis the same one, let's forget about deletion.--Pan Gerwazy 11:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - there are no independent reliable sources discussing either Gribanoff or his work. (English) Google hits seem to be split equally between his trailer and a (probably unrelated) Unreal Tournament player. Were he the camera man of Elizabeth I, things might be different, but that Gribanov is spelled differently (both surname and given name). Huon 12:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

No, (how often have we had to say this) in Russian Cyrillic he is not, have a look at the two Russian pages. But of course there may be more of them around. --Pan Gerwazy 13:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - the Elizabeth Gribanov's given name, Dmitrij, is (in latin script) written differently than Dmitry's passport photo on his website gives as his given name's official latin spelling (which, unlike his surname's, he uses himself). So unless we assume that a St Petersburg director routinely gets hired as cinematographer for films made in Lithuania by people who then misspell his name (compare Dmitrij's IMDb entry), they're different people. Anyway, if we can't even tell whether they're the same or not, there obviously are not enough reliable sources to write a verifiable article. Huon 17:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this one gives Gribanov a part in the making of Highlander - The Source, which also seems to have involved a Lithuanian firm. So, the Lithuanian link and Elizabeth I must both involve a different Dimi Gribanoff/v. I still think that whatever the article's Dimitry did between 2003-2007, he got a rather good reception in alternative film circles this year. This biggest "film" of his will be on the Internet only from September 28th and he is now planning to ask money for quality higher than Youtube ([2] - it is in the guestbook) I think it would be a bit awkward deleting him now, though I agree that the article itself as it is now is useless.--Pan Gerwazy 19:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - sorry for repeating myself, but is there a reliable source for either our Gribanoff or his good reception in alternative film circles? I found none, the article doesn't give any, and if we don't find some until AfD closure, why should we keep the article when it's effectively unverifiable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huon (talk • contribs) 20:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I found quite a number of references by way of Yandex. (it is quite a job, because there are quite a number of different people called that way, including an important lawyer, a violin player and a moto-cycler, and I hope I am not missing any correct ones because we do not have the patronymic - in any case I will have to put the references and my comment on them at talk) Looking through them (the correct ones, that is), I am starting to think that the guy may be (more) notable as a video game programmer, but not so, or not as much as a movie maker. The main problem: will people accept Russian references? After all, Alex knows Russian, he will be able to interpret them correctly. --Pan Gerwazy 08:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete unless reliable sources are provided. He isn't at imdb, and there are very few Ghits, youtube or otherwise, and nothing that indicated notability. There is a wide possibility of alternate spellings, but unless somebody can provide the sources, there is nothing here than indicates notability. Corvus cornix 23:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. The text provides no clue how he is encyclopedically notable, only notes his presence in a quite crowded field. Anyway, deleting this one liner won't be much of loss. Pavel Vozenilek 03:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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