Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danny Vinik

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The result was speedy delete: This is a poorly written article about an exceptionally non-notable individual, and this AfD is going off the rails. I was watching the game, and he certainly got a good round of applause and prime focus for a couple of minutes, but he was in no highlights later on in the evening, no mention in any national media, and has largely been forgotten one day later. Let this be clear: this isn't about lack of any real 14-minutes-of-fame notability, there are BLP concerns, too. He's a 17 year old kid, he was a hero for about 5 minutes, and everyone moved on. We shall, too. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Danny Vinik

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This guy has no notability. What he did didn't affect the outcome of the game; only one run was scored in that frame after he caught the ball, and they won 6-3. Let's just have articles for every single fan who ever tried to catch a foul ball. Ksy92003(talk) 23:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete NN person; he didn't affect the outcome of the game, as it is implied. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 23:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
• Do not delete - This most certainly affected the outcome of the game. Review the situation, if Vinik does not make contact with the ball, Mathis, in almost all likelyhood, catches the foul ball for the second out of the inning, bringing Lowell up with 2 outs and men on 1B and 2B. His fly ball is rendered meaningless in this scenario. Instead Ramirez is still alive and walks to load the bases with only 1 out, allowing Lowell to hit a game tying sacrifice fly. (AZrooter 23:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC))
  • • But if Mathis made the catch, then it'd be 3-2. Manny still hit the 3-run home run in the 9th which would've only made it 5-3, still a victory for Boston. Ksy92003(talk) 00:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
      • • Possibly but you cannot really predict the game situation that far in advance. But AFAWK Lowell does something to extend the inning the instead of flying out, things change. (AZrooter 01:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC))
• Strong delete - Jeffrey Maier and Steve Bartman both received extensive press. This is the first time I've heard this guy's name and I was really only vaguely aware of the situation to begin with. Totally non-notable. Nosleep1234 00:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Also, this fan didn't catch a ball that was in play, renderring the controversial aspect lending notability to Maier and Bartman completely nil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nosleep1234 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't delete it. If the ball was caught it would have been the 2nd out and Lowell's sac fly would have ended the inning. The Sox might have lost because then Manny might not even get up in the bottom of the ninth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.82.238.172 (talk) 00:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

• Slight merge to 2007 American League Division Series, the event with which he is associated. --Metropolitan90 00:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete This incident can in no be compared to Jeffrey Maier or Steve Bartman. There's no proven effect to the game, and the fan hasn't really been lauded and/or vilified. Delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redwolf75 (talk • contribs) 02:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
• Do not delete - Vinik is now as notable a figure as Bartman or Maier, both of whom have extensive entries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laughbased (talk • contribs) 02:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.