Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ Mystik

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. We cannot cobble an article together on the basis that a number of artists have called themselves "DJ Mystik"- it must be shown that one or more such artist is notable. If necessary this page could one day be a disambiguation page. However the notability of the artist presently described under that title (in terms of WP:BAND) has not been established. WjBscribe 08:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DJ Mystik

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This article is about a DJ whom no verifiable or attributable information is available, failing WP:ATT/WP:V. Searching google for the phrases "tony tran" and "dj mystik" yields only Wikipedia and mirrors. Googling without phrases just brings up thousands of unrelated results. As is, there are no sources cited in the article. It doesn't seem he was ever signed to any labels or had any media coverage, so delete as failing WP:BAND and verifiability in general. Wickethewok 07:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete Just a long list and a one line bio of a minor DJ who article admits hasn't worked for 6 years. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 19:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Extremely Weak Keep Records are available for purchase online, and artist has a current MySpace page and listing on Last.FM. Bio information on both sites is nearly identical to the WP entry (the MySpace page is a word for word copy). Brief review of genre albums (Happy Hardcore) reveals some use of tracks by this artist. If further information can be found, this article should be kept.Revpfil 22:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete promo, unsubstantiated. Wile E. Heresiarch 01:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Valid topic - but ... probably not a valid nomination for deletion. The unverifiable bio info should be moved to the talk page until it is sourced correctly. Deletion means that no article for DJ Mystik should ever be written, which in this case is not right since this artist clearly does exist and appears on CDs for sale in North America, Korea and Europe, which meets WP notability standards - it IS verifiable that the artist exists (a quick check shows that even I have had about a dozen or so DJ Mystik tune remixes on my iPod for a few years) - Davodd 11:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • What about the complete lack of sources (failing WP:ATT)? And how does having CDs for sale mean he's notable. Also, please note that there are many DJs who use the name "DJ Mystik" - a quick Google search brings up one in Belgium, one in California, and one in New Mexico and thats just on the first two pages of Google hits. There are no reliable sources on any of them. Wickethewok 13:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Articles for deletion is for articles that NEVER should be on Wikipedia. A vote to delete effectivle bans any future DJ Mystik articles. Your complaint is easily fixed by removing the unverifiable content and making the article a stub. A visit to various .torrent sites, [1] [2] [3] [4] shows that DJ Mystik tunes are being downloaded. It looks to me that all of our research has verified a few things:
  1. That more than one person claims the name "DJ Mystik"
  2. That Music has exists for a decade or so from "DJ Mystik"
  3. That "DJ Mystik" tunes are available right now on many bittorrent sites
  4. That we do not now have the ability to verify any biographical facts about who "DJ Mystik" is, although we can verify that the music exists
I am under the opinion that as a TOPIC, DJ Mystik is a valid Wikipedia article. As for the current entry - it has many fatal flaws. But that doesn't warrant an all-out ban on an article (which voting to delete effectively does). All of our issues can be remedied with a non-deletion route (always preferable in WIkipedia) by a CLEANUP in making the article a stub until some future editor has the ability and resources to flesh it out properly. Davodd 18:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't think cleanup is possible as I don't think any information is available anywhere. I assure you that if no one can find any information on something, that IS a reason for deletion. Also, AFD does not "ban" articles. If sources are found in the future, the article can be simply be put up again, you don't even have to go through DRV or anything. Wickethewok 18:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.