Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristina Cruz Mínguez
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. It seems possible that better sources might be out there still, and if found they could make a difference. WP:BIO is fairly demanding for actors. If she had been widely recognized for her performance in El Abuelo, that could make the difference. The movie's list of awards mentions other performers in El Abuelo but she is not mentioned. EdJohnston (talk) 22:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cristina Cruz Mínguez
Fails WP:BIO. Child actor in a single six-episode television series and single film. Not an active nor notable actor. Failed CSD. Collectonian (talk) 03:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. —Collectonian (talk) 03:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - 1 TV series + 1 film =2 visual media thingies. Was main character in one, strikes me as significant. I doubt we'd be having this discussion if this was an American show and countering systemic bias is valuable. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've already had enough insults for one day, thanks. I'd do the same if it were some kid in a six episode American series with one minor film role. I don't care that its a Spanish series, and I resent the implication that I'm showing some kind of bias. I just don't see how she's notable for an extremely short television series and a small movie roll. Collectonian (talk) 04:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I am making a point about systemic bias in general and wasn't aiming it at you personally, but it is one thing User:Jack Merridew and I have discussed and strongly agree on, just we have rather different ways of going about it. describing 6 episodes as short is subjective, as Fawlty Towers seasons were only 6 episodes each, a rather common practice in English TV. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, but Cecil was 6 episodes, total. That was the entire programme. Its done its run. I've noticed lots of UK shows doing the 6 episodes a series. Guessing they don't have to wait 3 months between series like we do between seasons (or at least, I'd hope not!) :P Collectonian (talk) 05:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- True, Fawlty Towers was 2 series and Black Books 3, and the best ones are often too short at six...:( Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, but Cecil was 6 episodes, total. That was the entire programme. Its done its run. I've noticed lots of UK shows doing the 6 episodes a series. Guessing they don't have to wait 3 months between series like we do between seasons (or at least, I'd hope not!) :P Collectonian (talk) 05:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I am making a point about systemic bias in general and wasn't aiming it at you personally, but it is one thing User:Jack Merridew and I have discussed and strongly agree on, just we have rather different ways of going about it. describing 6 episodes as short is subjective, as Fawlty Towers seasons were only 6 episodes each, a rather common practice in English TV. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - don't know if it matters, but this article is basically just translated from the Spanish Wikipedia article. Collectonian (talk) 04:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- It shouldn't matter. Many articles are translated directly from their equivalents in foreign Wikipedias, this one isn't even directly translated. There are no rules against translation, especially coming from the Wikipedia that is bound to have the most accurate information on this particular subject. T.W. (talk) 01:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Her only film, El abuelo, was an Academy Award nominee and won nine other prizes [1]. I don't know the "size" of her personage but she is in the credits with nine other actors. (Caiaffa (talk) 04:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC))
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