Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Constance (Connie) Wolf

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus majority points out the lack of substantial coverage as required by WP:BIO, while the minority - discounting pure votes with no rationale - argues that notability is inherited from the institution, which has little foundation in any guideline or policy that I know of. Also, the one quoted source is possibly neither independent nor reliable, raising WP:V issues. Sandstein 18:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Constance (Connie) Wolf

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Auto-promotion Joedoedoe 10:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• Note: this AFD was never completed properly and no AFD template ever appeared in article. Suggest proposed AFD be rejected outright for this reason with or without prejudice. As far as I am concerned it is a keep. Source provided; text tightened up. Looks real nice and purty now (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_%28Connie%29_Wolf). Today's 24 hours 11:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment AFD template was put onto article during this edit [1] however it seems that the date was wrong on the tag. Instead of fixing the date, the template was removed. I've reinserted the template with the correct date since this nom is still current. Nicko (Talk•

Contribs) 11:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• OK, sorry for any screw-up. Make mine Keep.Today's 24 hours 12:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, director of a museum that has an article. NawlinWiki 14:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per lack of "significant coverage" from independent sources - How is a museum director notable? Corpx 14:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Corpx. Fails notability criteria in WP:BIO. Valrith 20:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete for apparent lack of notability. At best, list her as holding her position under Contemporary Jewish Museum article. Canuckle 21:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —Espresso Addict 02:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, museum directors are notable approximately in the same way that college presidents are notable. They serve as the public face of the museum, they influence its policy and presentation, they attract (or fail to) donations of money and curatorial objects. Of course this doesn't apply to every museum in the US, but before us is a major urban museum with a long history. --Dhartung | Talk 06:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

• There is no inherent notability for college presidents. Notability for them should come from "significant coverage from independent sources", just like for notable museum directors. Corpx 06:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. 41 hits in Google news search (many of them articles in the SF Chron, a reliable independent source) provide the independent coverage that Corpx complains about the lack of. —David Eppstein 16:45, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Those are trivial mentions. The articles have to be about her (or mention her significantly), not quote her from her position. Corpx 01:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - I agree with Corpx in that the number of Google hits is irrelevant. As Corpx said, the total number of hits isn't as important as the number of non trivial hits. How many of those 41 hits are reprints of the same SF Chron article, for example? Postcard Cathy 02:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Contemporary Jewish Museum per Eusebeus. Additionally, she seems notable mainly for this one thing, so it makes sense to include her in the article about the thing she's notable for rather than keeping a separate article. —David Eppstein 19:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Question of inherited notability, really - which has long been decided. At best redirect to Contemporary Jewish Museum article until independent notability can be established per WP:BIO. Eusebeus 11:21, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.