Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canbourne University

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy keep since we appeared to have exhausted the comic potential of the anon copy-and-paste delete comments. Either this is a genuine university (i.e. keep) or it's a degree mill as the article says (i.e. grounds to delete is false). Either way it's a keep, as per 100% of historied editors' input below. Just zis Guy you know? 12:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canbourne University

I am a Canbourne student, and studied for almost 10 years, have all my books and good grades, I just do not think It's fair to say that the University is a degree mill without having any proof of that. Also, the contents in this articles are very prejudice for everyone like myself that have studied at the University. —Dinandes de Souza Dinossauro 16:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I would like some proof that this is a real university. The "tuition" page has lump sum payments for "degrees" and this "UK" school only has prices listed in US dollars.[1] Arbusto 07:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Week keep with the condition of a rewrite. I think it would be wrong to delete an article that has to deal with an institution of higher learning, but the article does present a NPOV viewpoint and unorganization. The article should be kept but rewritten. Failure to rewrite the article in a timely manner should bring it back here for my reverse vote. (Notorious4life 18:52, 1 May 2006 (UTC))
  • I know realized that the "college" is pathetic and that the nominator is arguing about the contents of his precious school from which he paid to get his degree. (Notorious4life 03:11, 4 May 2006 (UTC))
  • Keep, maybe could be written more NPOV but the sources used seem valid. BryanG 18:56, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Somebody please Speedy keep this. This is not a nomination for deletion, and has been placed here by mistake. - CrazyRussian talk/contribsemail 19:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. This article has been periodically attacked by whitewashing or blanking vandals. This is an obvious diploma mill, and the reason the nominator wants to have it deleted is the fact that it is portrayed as such in the article, and that this article gets high Google ranking. It claims to be a British university, but appears to be operating illegally in the UK (possibly catering more to American and other foreign students), has no legal right to award academic degrees in the UK, and it has stolen a significant part of its website content from the website of a real (if obscure) British university. That the article says so describes reality and is in fact a neutral point of view. u p p l a n d 19:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. From what I can see, calls it like it is. I don't know what this place is, but it's not a British university. Language could be made a little less POV, provided the main thrust (that this is, or seems to be, a Mickey Mouse con operation) is retained. Badgerpatrol 00:20, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, for the reasons state by u p p l a n d. Cedars 15:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep. This page has been white washed several times and the afd nominator is a new user only editting relating to this article. An afd is not for a content dispute. Arbusto 04:37, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • COMMENT ON DECEIT: The nominator Dinossauro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) purposely changed the spelling of this degree mill from Canbourne University to Cambourme University[2]. Arbusto 04:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep, bad faith nomination. Just zis Guy you know? 08:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Wikipedia should have an article about every diploma mill with enough students that an employer might actually encounter one, and say that they are a diploma mill in the first line of the article, where google will show it. Calls it like it is. JeffBurdges 14:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
  • DELETION

Well everybody is talking about the Canbourne University, once again, does anybody has any proof against the University ? And again It's not politically correct to accuse without any proof, if the University was really a fraudulent university, why the UK or Us government did not closed down the University ? It is really easy to go out and accuse all you may think that is not correct, but without any proof I can not really proof anything, Do I ? I could go and put up an website, perhaps saying that the Wikipedia is a fraudulent site, based on the following: Wikipedia can be altered by any individual. I have registered with Florida state and got approved for my CPA, now If was fraudulent, the Florida state should not refused me? For me that is ridiculous. Sergio Ricardo Teixeira DELETION ***********—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.74.38 (talk • contribs)

I'd like to see proof that Florida recognizes Canbourne University. Arbusto 00:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
  • ***Speedy Deletion*********No proof............ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.157.149.238 (talk • contribs)
  • SPEEDY DELETION* COMPLETELY AGREED —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.74.38 (talk • contribs)
  • Keep, but rewrite to an NPOV. For one thing, the article should not lead "Canbourne University is a degree mill". Stifle (talk) 00:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
  • DELETION* SORRY NO LEGAL PROOF THAT THIS UNIVERSITY CAN NOT AWARD DEGREES.
  • DELETION* NO PROOF AT ALL, DELETION.
  • Deletion* Well, Can somebody please tell me how the UK government does not take legal action against these people if they are an illegal body? They even told me that I could register their diplomas with any UK Consulate in order to be legal outside the UK. Seriously, I do not know who to believe, therefore I would like to see legal proof against this subject. Can the administrator of this site do better researches? Perhaps if he finds something I will decide to study again and obtain other degree.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.144.90.119 (talk • contribs)
  • Will you give it up already? The article's going to be kept despite your vacuous arguments against the validity of the degrading truth about this alleged institute of higher learning. If you actually learned anything from the degree you bought, you'd be smart enough to realize that you're wrong, and unlike the college your arguing in favor of, Wikipedia has standards. Please cease your deletion comments concerning this article. — Я не имею никакой жизни 06:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Despite 208.157.149.238's claims, Canbourne is not an authorized school and their diplomas are not recognized in the UK.[3] Also after further research this is an Israeli based diploma mill. Arbusto 08:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
  • DELETION* Mr. Arbustoo, why dont you proof anything, all you do is accuse, nothing else, them stop with your bull and give us some proof.
  • DELETION* OR rewrite the article should not lead "Canbourne University is a degree mill.
  • DELETION* OR rewrite the article should not lead "Canbourne University is a degree mill.

DELETION OR but rewrite to an NPOV. For one thing, the article should not lead "Canbourne University is a degree mill".

  • Speedy Deletion* Where are the proof ? Simple as that, no proof cant be accuse.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.