Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bryant S. Hinckley

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The result was Keep, nomination withdrawn. NawlinWiki 19:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bryant S. Hinckley

Bryant S. Hinckley (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

WP:BIO notability concerns. Main feature of "notability" appears to be that he is the father of the current president of the LDS Church. Otherwise he was, as the article acknowledges, a run-of-the-mill "mid-level" leader in the LDS Church. There have been thousands and probably tens of thousands of stake presidents and mission presidents, which appear to have been his highest callings in the hierarchy. In any case, no sources are referenced. SESmith 04:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete Inadequate assertion of notability, no sources. Caknuck 04:25, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Notability is not inherited. I see no attribution and no reliable third-party independent sources that are talking about him specifically (and not just in relationship to his notable son). --Charlene 04:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as above. LowdownDazz 05:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • There are several notations of him for his role as a speaker and writter. It should be born in mind some references mention his son more to place him than because that is why he is important. There are also several places where quotes can be found by him that do not mention he is the father of Gordon B. Hinckley.
  • Keep there are two articles on him in the Latter-day Saint Biographical Encyclopedia written by Andrew jenson. This was published in four volumes from 1900-1936, so his son's latter notability did not influence Jenson to include him.

The following link has another quote from Bryant S. Hinckley. http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6944

Here is another one where they have a short poem by Bryant S. Hinckley. http://www.clayfieldcounselling.com.au/newsletter/newsletter_2005_07.html

In this document on page 111 there is mention of Bryant S. Hinckley's renowned style of speaking. http://avp.byu.edu/documents/pdf/shakespearesaints.pdf

The fact that there is a quote from Bryant S. Hinckley at this site is not particularly notable, but I think it does demonstrate that he is widely quoted. http://www.christysclipart.com/bedience_quotes.html

This link mentions Bryant S. Hinckley organizing the Lansing Michigan District in 1936. http://www.mission.net/michigan/lansing/page.php?pg_id=2739

Here are some people quoting Bryant S. Hinckley who do not particularly like him. http://www.tbaptist.com/pbc/2005/pbc0508.html

Here is a quote that mentions Bryant S. Hinckley's role as an author. "In the late 1890s, Roberts also helped establish the Improvement Era. He raised money, selected the journal's name, and framed an editorial policy that featured history (during its seventy-three-year history, the Improvement Era printed over eight hundred history-related articles). As its longtime, de facto editor, Roberts used some of the best local talent available: Edward H. Anderson, Joseph J. Cannon, John Henry Evans, Susa Young Gates, Preston Nibley, Joseph Fielding Smith, Junius F. Wells, and John A. Widtsoe. Later such important writers as Juanita Brooks, Richard L. Evans, Bryant S. Hinckley, and William Mulder joined the Improvement Era ranks. No one was more prolific than Roberts himself, however. During his thirty-five-year association with the periodical, he averaged three articles a year." I found it at http://www.press.uillinois.edu/epub/books/walker/02.html. This is a book published by the University of illinois press.

In 1969 there was a Bryant S. Hinckley church history group that G. Homer Durham was involved in. They were named such because Bryant S. Hinckley had written so many biographies of Mormon leaders.

Here is a reference to another book by Bryant S. Hinckley. http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/gaq/020216.shtml

Here is a link to a talk given by Bryant S. Hinckley at General Conference. http://search.ldslibrary.com/article/view/207775

Comment : the article had none of this information at the time of nomination. These efforts should go towards improving the article and not just dragged out during a AFD to save an article. –SESmith 23:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Here is a reference to Bryant S. Hinckley as stake president in BYU Professor Thomas G. Alexander's book "Mormonism in Transition". http://books.google.com/books?id=u9jkQnDJExYC&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=%22bryant+s+hinckley%22&source=web&ots=mvEyYd2xp-&sig=PQ7Ka-RqN_PQUj1MkLhM5aJVTiM#PPA155,M1

  • Comment any time they go in improves the article, as long as they do go in. Many articles are improved during an AfD. It would have been better had they gone in before, but at least we have them now. I added the missing line of code so refs would display in a separate section they way they are supposed to.DGG 00:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment (from nominator) : in light of the recent edits, I am more than willing to withdraw this nomination. I think notability has been established. –SESmith 03:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —David Eppstein 21:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable. ¿SFGiДnts! ¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review! 01:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
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