Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benny Da Kidd

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The result was delete. Sr13 03:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Benny Da Kidd

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Not-notable enough music producer/writer. Zero Google web [1], news [2] and even blog [3] hits, and no entry at allmusic. I declined to speedy given the claim of having written songs performed by well known artists. If true, which is not established, he may meet the letter of the first entry at Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for composers and lyricists. However, I believe that that criterion is overbroad, and the fact that it so poorly written, may mean it is not the result of thorough consensus. Anyone who has written a song for any notable band is notable? I think not. In any event, this may fail Wikipedia:Verifiability.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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  • Speedy delete as likely hoax. Funny how the external links are functional, yet Google still can't seem to locate them... hmm, suppose maybe that the external pages were crafted just for the purpose of this Wikipedia article? Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 17:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. While the subject's online presence appears to be new, we all know, Google takes time to populate it's search results with data swept from the internet. Not sure I would be to quick to judge in this case. We have seen overnight notariety for those in the entertainment industry quite often, which may or may not be followed by immediate google search results.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.110.29 (talk • contribs)
  • Delete per nom. Once there are source, we can revisit the question. semper fictilis 19:52, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • ""Keep"". The ASCAP listing for credit to the Kindred the Family Soul and India Arie collaborations are actually accidently listed under "Binny Da Kid" instead of "Benny Da Kidd" as seen by the google results - Doblog - はじまりはブラックミュージック -

DINKY BINGHAM AND KINDRED THE FAMILY SOUL 7. CHUCK TREECE 8. CONLEY WHITFIELD & STEVE MCKIE 9. NOIZETRIP 11.14. EASY MO BE 12. BINNY DA KID, DINKY BINGHAM ... www.doblog.com/weblog/myblog/3294/2398936 - 92k - Supplemental Result Charlesbelk 20:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)]]

  • Verifiable Source Available. It appears according to allmusic.com (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:ajfexqqsldse) that this music producer did appear on at least the songs indicated as not only a music producer but also as a performer with Kindred and India Arie (under Binny Da Kid, Binny Jay Records and Benjamin Rogers):

Struggle No More feat. India.Arie (F.Dantzler, A.Graydon, O. Bingham, B.Rogers, I.Simpson)

(c) 2005 Family soul Music (ASCAP)/ Dinky B. Music (ASCAP)/ Binny Jay Records (ASCAP)/ Gold and Iron Music Publishing (BMI)/WB Music Group (BMI)

Produced by Binny Da Kid for Binny Jay Records and Dinky Bingham Co-Produced by Kindred The Family Soul Recording by Dinky Bingham at Go Town Studios, Atlanta, GA Vocals: Aja Graydon & Fatin Dantzler Drums, Bass, Keys, Dniky Bingham Guitar, Drums: Benjamin Rogers --Onsouthbeach 21:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • STRONG KEEP - Benny Da Kidd is a talented producer, that has an ear for music. Benny Da Kidd produces incredible tracks to reach various genres within the music world. Be it Hip Hop, R&B or Pop. I was priviledge to meet this young man at the ASCAP Conference this year, in addition to being privvy to some incredile tracks, this young producer's character spoke substance and integrity. Benny Da Kidd is the sight and sound of a new generation of producers!!!

The Publicity Prince --Publicity Prince 19:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep. Benny da Kidd is pretty well known on the block. But even those who don't know his name, know his music. Kweku. --Creatality 23:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete per nom. Lacks any notability, google search results were scant. Does not meet WP:Notability requirements. --Ozgod 04:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

--Kevincarrington 21:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Benny Da Kidd is the next generation of uber producers/songwriters. At such a young age, the way he puts a track together by marrying the vocals and the track in perfect harmony, is similar to that of a veteran. Benny Da Kidd is the future, destined to be mentioned with the greats.
  • Delete, looks to be a hoax. The person possibly exists, but is not as important and notable as the article seems to suggest. Lankiveil 02:06, 20 May 2007 (UTC).
  • Wait/Review/Check Sources/Verify, Guys, this is not a hoax, and yes the person does exist, and yes the person is notable. The initial entry indicated that it may come down to verifiability. That proof was provided above. And "not as important and notable as the article seems to suggest" appears to be up for personal interpretation. --Charlesbelk 02:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • So we've got this producer/songwriter who's supposed to be so super hot and big and so on and so forth, but we have absolutely no references whatsoever to indicate all this. One would think someone would be writing about this guy if he's so exciting, wouldn't one? Delete as hoax. Tony Fox (arf!) 05:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment This is directed at the users above who have created accounts just to participate in this discussion. The general barometer we use at Wikipedia for notability is if the subject of an article has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and each other. The best way to argue for keeping this article in my opinion is to go to the article and cite to sources that meet this standard.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I cannot find any third-party sources that might establish notability and verifiability. And I have to echo Fuhghettaboutit's comment; no admin worthy of the title will pay attention to claims of "he is the best", because that is totally irrelevant. Adrian M. H. 15:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete There's no references that he's done anything that meets the standards of Notablity or WP:MUSIC at this time. dissolvetalk 17:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

KEEP My name is Willie Macc from BET's College Hill and I did some drops for Benny da Kids tracks and he is defiantly a hard working individual and has a lot of buzz in the entertainment industry

  • Delete - no reliable sources -- Whpq 17:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
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