Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Austin Peralta

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The result was delete. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 07:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Austin Peralta

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Fails notability test. Google search turned up few to no independent articles. Few other articles link to it. Ocatecir 16:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, promising young jazz pianist but apparently mainly known in Japan at this point. Unless WP:RS turn up, seems like his notability lies in the future. --Dhartung | Talk 19:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. If the kid really has two solo albums to his credit on an actual record label (not self-released) then I'd say that makes him notable.--Lee Vonce 17:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Subject is the son of Stacy Peralta, a possible redirection target. The two albums appear to be self-published. There is possible non-trivial coverage at The Acorn.com, All About Jazz.com - I don't know enough about these sites to know whether they pass WP:RS. In the first 100 hits on Yahoo and Google, I see no evidence that subject has played outside California. On this basis, delete as failing WP:MUSIC, but it would not take much new evidence to change my mind. Eludium-q36 18:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • comment: If he's the son of a notable person, then he's notable simply on that basis. He's already mentioned in his father's article in fact. Not only that, if he's been mentioned by mainstream jazz commentators, as you so deftly showed, then that gives the lad some notability of his own. Wouldn't you agree? --Lee Vonce 21:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

• Sorry, but being the offspring of someone famous does not warrant their own page. Neither does the other reasons you've mentioned. The criteria for notability for whether or a not a page is warranted is listed at WP:Notability and WP:MUSIC among other places that give Wikipedia's guidelines. - Ocatecir 22:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Notability may have some dim reflective properties, but is certainly not hereditary, as Ocatecir has noted. The children of a notable person may get a brief mention in their parent's article, but an article of their own requires them to be evaluated as individuals, on their own merits. The links I've noted above may or may not constitute independent non-trivial coverage - jazz is certainly not my field of expertise, and I defer to those who know more about the field. Eludium-q36 19:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per above. Fails WP:MUSIC. Eusebeus 20:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Neutral The kid is sure a whiz at self-promotion. Such schlocky fake posts of interest questions on jazz boards he posts. However, he does have two albums that appear to have at least sold a few. There are less notable people on Wikipedia. Still, that's no reason to include or exclude him. I can't figure anything out because of the overdose of self-promotion. This concerns me that the article should not be posted without a couple of solid neutral resources in line. KP Botany 02:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Un-notable bio and free server website!!! -- User:Chiketychina 08:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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