Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Austin Cunningham

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The result was delete. Singularity 04:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Austin Cunningham

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He's written a few singles for notable acts, but I am unable to find any reliable third-party sources pertaining to his notability. (Shame, since he's a hell of a songwriter, at least from the songs of his that I've heard.) A search is turning up only false positives. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 20:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 20:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Delete unless reliable 3rd party sources show up showing that he wrote x, y, and z. Jasynnash2 (talk) 10:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 17:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. Do we need to refine the notability criteria for songwriters? I would suggest making the composer and lyricist for a notable song automatically notable themselves, even if the reliable references deal with the song rather than its creators. --Eastmain (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

• I'm not even finding references for the songs (besides the liner notes to the Jason Sellers album). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Eastmain, how can a biographical article be written if there are no reliable sources dealing with the composer's or lyricist's biography? Deor (talk) 19:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

If notability can be established through the song credits or otherwise, then it is permissible to use non-independent sources (including the songwriter's own website) to fill in the empty spaces. --Eastmain (talk) 04:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. I found these credits at Allmusic. Are they enough? http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=AUSTIN|CUNNINGHAM&sql=11:hvfexqy5ldfe~T4 --Eastmain (talk) 04:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

• No. He's worked with notable acts (Pat Alger and Melodie Crittenden), but that doesn't make him notable. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Singularity 07:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete, fails WP:ENTERTAINER and WP:MUSIC as well as WP:BIO more generally. --Dhartung | Talk 20:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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