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"In July 1873, after a particularly violent quarrel in Brussels train station, Verlaine shot Rimbaud in the wrist. Fearing for his life, Rimbaud called for the police."

in "deposition de rimbaud devant le juge d'instruction" 12 july 1873 Rimbaud recounts the events. Verlaine shot him at his mother house after Rimbaud had decided on going to paris which Verline protested, after geting drunk he shot at rimbaud twice. the frist shot hit his left wrist and the second hit the floor. It was after the shooting when leaving for Paris Verlaine carried the gun within his pocket acting like a mad man which scared Rimbaund into calling for the police. so i'm going to edit this line.--Monty Cantsin 08:49, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Charles Baudelaire

I cannot find a reason for Charles Baudelaire figuring in the Rimbaud template, neither here nor in that writer's article. Nameme 03:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

David Morrell has confirmed that Rambo was named after Rimbaud

David Morrell has confirmed that Rambo was named after Rimbaud.

JG Hitzert

I've seen an interview with John Milius where he claims that both the character Rambo and Kurtz in Conrad's Heart of Darkness were both based on Rimbaud. His fascination with the Heart of Darkness book also extends to his film Farewell to The King. --~~~~

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Addition of T. S. Eliot to "Influences."

Added with the following justifications: 1) Eliot studied and was condidered an expert in the French symbolist poets at Cambridge, and quoted Rimbaud in his work on such; 2) "Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock," pretty much in its entirety, shows notable influence of Rimbaud in its juxtapostion of high poetic beauty with the commonplace or the unattractive.

Consider these lines from "Prufrock":

For I have known them all already, known them all --
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?


And Rimbaud, from "The Drunken Boat":

I have come to know the skies splitting with lightnings, and the waterspouts
And the breakers and currents; I know the evening,
And Dawn rising up like a flock of doves,
And sometimes I have seen what men have imagined they saw!


One can also note that Rimbaud's echoes of "I have known", "I have dreamed", "I have followed" etc. becomes Eliot's repetion of "I have known" across three stanzas.

Also from "The Drunken Boat," the line "the bitter rednesses of love" certainly is on the same plane as Eliot's theme.

Influence also in other works throughout his life, including The Four Quartets. I realize this is arguable. Other views welcome!

Edwardpiercy 20:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


On the other hand, I can't think of two more dissimilar poets than Rimbaud (a homosexual anarchist) and Eliot (a deeply religious monarchist authoritarian). Since Eliot's entire body of work references snippets of just about everything within western civilization before him, I'm not sure I care whether he made a reference to Rimbaud or not ... --Kelt65 21:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Rimbaud was still 18 when Verlaine shot him.

Because the shooting happened in July and Rimbaud was born in October. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.128.196.43 (talk) 01:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC).


Rimbaud's final months: It is not true the information that Rimbaud never left the hospital after having his leg amputated. In fact, he left hospital for home, in Charleville. What happens is that, some months ahead, as passing again by Marseille in a desperate attempt to travel back to Aden/Harar, he did not make it, and was instead admitted once more in the hospital where he had his leg amputated, dying there, ironically as it coul possibly be, some days later. Please check: Arthur Rimbaud in Africa, by Charles NIcholl, for details on these final events of the french symbolist poet in reference.

Graffitti in Amenophis III Birthplace at Luxor: Arthur Rimbaud

Bold text A discussion has been installed about a grafitti at pharaoh Amenophis III Birth place in Luxor Temple,reading ARTHUR RIMBAUD,supposedly discovered by french novelist Jean Cocteau in 1949.

Is it a real Rimbaud handwriting specimen, or a faked autorship inscription?

I have investigated this question a little further, and I ended up by discovering that, when Rimbaud travelled to Cairo in august 1887, there enjoying a kind of "four-weeks leave", and even writing articles to the expatriate newspaper Bosphore Egyptien on August 25h and 27th, the Egyptian museum was under direction of egyptologist Georges Émile Jules Daressy, a young french scientist ten years younger than Rimbaud, and a one who afterwards acquired professional fame as the translator of the Akhmin Wooden Tablet, a sort of Arithmetical Woodplate of Ancient Egypt.

Curiously enough, Daressy was then just surveying Luxor Monuments Area, an unveiled part of which he started excavating the next year, with superb results.

Just supposing for a moment that the inscription is authentic, could we assume that Rimbaud and Daressy had been introduced (maybe by Octave Borelli, director of the Bosphore Egyptien and brother of Rimbaud's friend Jules Borelli), and the archaeologist invited him to see his Luxor excavations-in-prospect?

Or am I just going too far on speculation?


Thanks for any help.

Grading

Yann, I see that you've downgraded this article. I appreciate that there is a lot of work to be done and the justification for your downgrade could be useful. Please comment. --PaulGarner 17:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Plenty of R's life, very little abt his poetry.PiCo 10:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Was he actually a poet and not just the proto emo boy? H Bruthzoo 17:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


Hi-

I've made the article more objective regarding the alleged sexual relationship between Rimbaud and Verlaine, as there is no documented proof that they did indeed have homosexual sex. They may or may not have. A citation from a French book is not proof.

Czarnykon (talk) 12:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

!? I'm not sure that there's any serious doubt whatsoever about the nature of their relationship. They even wrote a joint sonnet, variously called Obscur et froncé ("Hidden and wrinkled") and the Sonnet du trou du cul ("Arsehole sonnet").
"Little doubt remain in a reasonable reader's mind that sodomy must indeed have been practised". (Starkie, Arthur Rimbaud, 1973:184).
"There is little doubt the two men became lovers" (Schmidt, Arthur Rimbaud Complete Works, 2000:343).
Novelist Alphonse Daudet reported that Rimbaud said to him "[Verlaine] can satisfy himself on me as as much as he likes. But now he wants me to practise on him. Not on your life! He's far too filthy." (Quoted in Robb, Rimbaud, 2000:142)
Poet Maurice Rollinat recounted how Rimbaud told him "X ... fucked me all night long and now I can't keep my shit in." (Quoted in Robb, Rimbaud, 2000:142)
--ROGER DAVIES talk 13:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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