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Contents 1 Neutrality 2 Removed evaluative and awkward sentence 3 Facts on the ground 3.1 Jordanian rule 3.2 Sources needed

[edit] Neutrality

Could the contributor who tagged this article as non-neutral please explain why he/she did so? Hakob 21:19, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah really this is bs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.192.171 (talk) 01:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

No your fucking bs you little bitch you didn't even give a proper explanation, dickheads like you that go around everywhere and always complain make things hard to get done on Wikipedia and you ruin a perfectly good article by tagging it "non-neutral".76.174.215.254 (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed evaluative and awkward sentence

I have removed this concluding sentence of the article:

"The Armenian community is but a smaller example of Israel as whole, of a community's ability to survive and persevere for such long periods."

Two reasons. One, this is a triple evaluative opinion, expressing praise for Israel, expressing praise for the Armenians in Jerusalem, and comparing them. This is not an encyclopedic fact. It is a generous opinion, maybe, but it is still an opinion. It also might not be acceptable to all the people being discussed without some modulation.

Second, the sentence is poorly phrased. The Armenians are not an "example" of Israel, that's not the intended word. And smaller than what? "Examples" are not "smaller" than the things they are "examples" of, exactly. Is "2+2=4" "smaller" than "addition"? It's just an--example!

Perhaps the contributor of the sentence could find quotations from figures in the community being discussed expressing the sentiments he or she means to document. That would be more informative, perhaps.

— Inacurate statement "With the outbreak of World War I the Armenians found themselves cut off from their sources of support among the western powers. In 1915, using the excuse that the Armenians were allied with the Russians, the Young Turks ordered all Armenians expelled from Armenia in north eastern Turkey. The Soviets meanwhile marched into Russian Armenia and annexed it as a Soviet Socialist Republic." First of all, the paragraph seems to imply that East Armenia was annexed by Soviet Union in 1915, as we all know USSR did not exist at the time. Armenia became a Soviet Republic only in 1922. Anyone care to rewrite? 209.195.110.247 06:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Facts on the ground

The use of this phrase clearly consitutes an attempt to draw political parrallels with modern actions and as such should be reworded.

[edit] Jordanian rule

"Jordanian rule was not as equal and tolerant as modern day historians like to imagine it."

I have the same sympathies regarding Israel's more humane treatment of its religious minorities, but what you're basically saying here is that you've put something in wikipedia that doesn't belong there. It's a tertiary work, remember; our job is precisely to report what "modern day historians" tend to claim. If we think they're wrong, well, wikipedia isn't the place to solve that problem. The whole Jordanian rule section is an unsourced editorial as it stands. I think with a little work it could be made into something respectable that nevertheless doesn't whitewash Jordan's role. Make no mistake, though, it can't stay as it is.205.212.73.163 07:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources needed

The chapter Jordanian rule 1948–1967 states: Jordanian rule was not as equal and tolerant as modern day historians like to imagine it. This is pure opinion - without any source given! There should generally be a lot more of notes and sources in the article!

The picture showing an Eastern Orthodox Man in the Armenian Quarter is questionable as well. What's the value of a - eastern orthodox clergyman in the article about the Armenian quarter where there is non Armenien clergyman? Besides of that the caption Man in the Armenian Quarter is rather poor. - Eliminate this picture it's of no value in this article!

Any article about Jerusalem, an apple of discord, absolutely need notes! This is not a solution but a first step. Apocolocynthosis (talk) 22:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)