Talk:Armed Forces Day

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[edit] Liberation of Romania

Petri Krohn tried to link the Soviet occupation of Romania with the Romanian Army Day. I found this provocative: First of all, the Red Army didn't fight alone against the German and Hungarian troops, the Romanian Army participated, too. Your edit makes it look as if the Soviets did it by themselves. Second of all, the Red Army fighting the Axis powers has nothing to do with the Soviet occupation after the war. Mentatus 07:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I did not create a link to Soviet occupation of Romania. I wikilinked the text liberation of Romania in the article.
On the "occupation" issue. There is a heated discussion going on Talk:Soviet occupation of Romania on the name of the article. In my oppinion the article, that covers the events of the liberation of Romania from Nazi control should not be named "XX occupation of Romania". And yes, I agree, both Romanian and Soviet troops participated. -- Petri Krohn 22:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
But you used a weasel word when you created the link. How would it be if I wiki-linked these articles as follows: Russian imperialist and Liberation War of Finland by the Russians? The Russian and Finnish contributors would hit the roof, wouldn't they? My suggestion is to avoid the POV terms until the discussion on Talk:Soviet occupation of Romania is over. Pushing your point of view in other articles is not an honest way to argue for it, sorry. Mentatus 08:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
  1. No, I did not use any weasel words! I added nothing to the text except the [[wikilink]].
  2. You do not seem to understand how Wipipedia works: [[Vladimir Putin|Russian imperialist]] is not the same as [[liberation of Romania]]. The first is a hidden "easter egg" link, while the second is a redirect. Even if you diagree with the redirect, there is nothing wrong with this page.
If you feel that the Soviet occupation of Romania and the liberation of Romania were not the same historical event, you are free write an article on the later. I doubt that the WP:POVFORK would survive WP:AFD and merger. -- Petri Krohn 11:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Make sure I understand how your POV pushing works. So, what you did was not POV-forking... this means I'm free to create an article [[Russian imperialism]] and redirect it to [[Vladimir Putin]], isn't it? This won't be POV-forking and pushing using redirects? Mentatus 13:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you can search for instances of "Russian imperialism" on Wikipedia using Google. You can then make wikilinks of all of these instances. (I count 48.) This is what I have done for all these redirects
You can then create the redirect Russian imperialism, and redirect it where you best see fit.
However, if you redirected the page to Vladimir Putin, this would most likely be speedily deleted, as an attack page.
-- Petri Krohn 18:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, that's exactly what you did: you created the Liberation of Romania and redirected it to Soviet occupation of Romania in order to push your POV. The Liberation article should either be improved or speedily deleted as an attack page (using your very words). Mentatus 07:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Mentatus. I 100% agree with you on the substance. But just a small remark on your rhetorical question: "The Russian and Finnish contributors would hit the roof, wouldn't they?" Surely almost all, but not all. Read about Finlandization, and you'll see why. Turgidson 17:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Turgidson, I know what you mean. I had heard about Finlandization, but I didn't know it proved that successful... Well, not all the Romanian contributors hit the roof when they read about the Soviet "liberation" either - at least the Finns were subjected only to brainwashing, not to brainwashing cum imprisonment/genocide/deportation/terror. Mentatus 07:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misfit Sentence

this sentence seems a little bit out of place "Pakistan has the seventh largest military in the world and a declared nuclear power." can anyone justify why this statement is present in the location it is currently in?