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[edit] how to create an article

search for the article and if there is no positive result the option to create such an article appears. Wandalstouring (talk) 08:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC) Wandal delete or change title of article to Siege of Sardis (547 BC), thanks! Cus I want to make it myself I don't know how to change main title if you can tell me.

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Re: I Need Help

Salam bro. I don't think it's necessary to change the title yet unless there are other Wikipedia articles which are also called Siege of Sardis. We should only change the title after someone creates articles for the other sieges of Sardis as well. Regards, your brother from another mother, Jagged 85 (talk) 11:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Aryobarzan

Noticed your name, there should be an article on this person. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

You can't really delete articles, unless they are spoofs or attack pieces. The best you can do is to redirect them somewhere. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Siege of Doriskos

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[edit] Siege of Gordium

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[edit] WAIT!

I have new info regarding this article and will place it there either today or tommorow so please do not delete it cuz its a part of history and it has happened which makes it worth having, so it will not be forgotten by time!--Ariobarza (talk) 03:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza talk

Please place this rationale on the talk page of the article, not here. :) scetoaux (talk) (My contributions.) 03:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Little context in Siege of Byzantium (478 BC)

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[edit] as the reviewing administrator

I removed the speedy tags on all of these, ad added an underconstruction tag. (Speedy tags should not be placed immediately after the article is started, but time should be allowed for writing it, per WP:CSD.). However, I strongly advise that you get some content into these articles as soon as possible, preferably today including references from one good book on the subject. -- You might also want to add the appropriate link to Herodotus, and to some general articles in WP. The way it goes here, you would have been safer writing them off-wiki to start with. it is not supposed to be that way, but that's the practical reality of it. DGG (talk) 04:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Battle of Mylasa

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[edit] Battle of Pedasa

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[edit] =for the ones that i didnt catch

the best thing is simply to re-create them with a line or two of actual content. I could undelete them, but its more complicated, because I'm supposed to first ask the different admins who inadvertently deleted them. Just do them again, and ask me if there are any problems, DGG (talk) 05:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is there any reason...

  • ...why you can't simply wait to post an article until you actually have an article to post? JuJube (talk) 07:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Why not create your own sandbox, and work on your new articles there. When ready, you can the copy & paste into the new article. If you need help creating your sandbox let me know. Mjroots (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I've nominated these articles for speedy deletion again, please feel free to recreate them when you have some content to add. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] further advice

I suggest that you see such articles as Battle of the Granicus for an indication of the information that is expected in these articles, including the use of more detail, more background, and the use of more advanced academic sources, with a reference to all the appropriate ancient authors. A good modern textbook of ancient history would be a useful start. The place to ask for help and suggestions is Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Classical warfare task force; As for the box, they can help you there better than I can.DGG (talk) 15:41, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] templates

Thats a part of the WP I do not know. Ask at the project or at WP:HD. DGG (talk) 01:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Siege of Sardis (546 BC)

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[edit] February 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Siege of Tyre, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Nabudis Shadow (talk) 03:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stop!

Don't do cut and paste moves, you're losing the edit history! Use the "move this page" link. Please stop moving articles now and do them the correct way. And undo the ones you've just done. Corvus cornixtalk 03:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

By doing a cut and paste move, you lose the article's edit history. The new article you create only has you as the person who made every edit to the article. That's a violation of the GFDL license, which is the license that Wikipedia uses, because every person's edit must be retained. It's a copyright violation. You must use "move this page", which keeps the edit history. Corvus cornixtalk 04:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The "move" tab is at the top of the page. But now that both articles have history, you can't do a move. You'll have to go to WP:RFPM. Corvus cornixtalk 04:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Siege of Tyre

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Siege of Tyre. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Corvus cornixtalk 05:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Pelusium

Thanks! I am also looking forward to create some more pages about ancient battles of the Near East, to make many interesting facts present in Wikipedia. Thank you for adding the number of dead by Ctesiass (whether they are wrong or not). Cheers! Egyptzo (talk) 20:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About those points

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[edit] Hydaspes

It may well be that idiom differs; it may also be that Battle of the Hydaspes River is ill-titled. My memory of the late campaigns is less clear, so I do not recall which. In either case, one article does not justify another; see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS (which is about deletion discussions, but the same principle applies). Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Siege of Ectabana

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[edit] Tyre

It may be that if decent articles are ever written on Nebuchadnezzar's siege of Tyre and the crusader siege, we will want to move this article; but until it is both demonstrated that such separate articles are necessary and that they are as commonly discussed as Alexander's, why? See WP:PRIMARYUSAGE for the standard we apply. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

If you're right, others will agree with you (and you may be). That's why posting to WP:RM is required. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] starting a controversy?

I was doing research, and found the Wikipedia article to be lacking in the information I was looking for, so I started a comment on the talk page. How is this "starting a controversy"? 70.20.149.174 (talk) 05:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Battle of the Median Border

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[edit] Cyrus

Hi Ariobarza. I have some points: 1- "So I just want to say that Cyrus' campgain box that I created is based of a combination of Hero,Ctes, and Nicols works." This is problematic, since they are primary sources, but in Wikipedia you can only use secondary sources, that is, academic publications; see [1]. 2- "The article of Cyrus only has Herodotus' version of events" The modern scholarly consensus regards Herodotus as very unreliable, but more reliable than Ctesias. Right or wrong, this is the reason why Herodotus version should have more space in the article than Ctesias' one. But of course it would be great if we had Ctesias version too. 3- "Atradates was a nickname of Cambyses I, it's not another person, and therefore I think it now should be included in Cambyses I article, don't worry I won't put it back in Cyrus's article." Feel free to add it, but remember that you have to reference it with an academic publication. 4- "Second, Baselius or something, I may have spelled it wrong, like you said only applies to Greek rulers right, but in tradition Croessus was a Greek, and even if the tradition is wrong, Asia Minor which is half of The Lydian Empire was composed of Asian Greeks! Lydians are Greeks" No, you are wrong. Lydians were not Greeks. They were non Greek Anatolian peoples who spoke a non Greek Anatolian language and that were regarded as foreigners by the Greeks. So, the title basileus doesn't apply to them. 5- "And the Medes had a Empire with a Emperor, some books today call Astyages Emperor of the Medes, ask me to look for it, and I'll prove it to you." I know it, but other books and articles argue that the Median 'Empire' was not such thing; that is, the imperial status of Media is desputed among scholars. So I'd prefer to use 'king' instead, as all agree that there was a king (= monarch = sole ruler) in Media. Regards, Amizzoni (talk) 04:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but at this moment I'm unable to read your comments with the attention they deserve, so I'd prefer not to answer for the moment. In fact I have little time to spend in Wikipedia. I hope you can understand. Bets regards, Amizzoni (talk) 19:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Request to move article Battle of the Eurymedon River incomplete

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[edit] Battle of Media

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[edit] Cyrus' titles

I replied in the talk page of Cyrus the Great. If you have any comment, please leave it there and not in my talk page, as the discussion is about the article. Best regards, Amizzoni (talk) 03:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)