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[edit] Contradiction

Allow me to quote "Democracy and aristocracy are incompatible as forms of government due to the hereditary nature of power in an aristocratic system". This seems rather odd given that in the United Kingdom Peers still inherit the right to a seat in parliament ultimately making the UK a democracy, aristocracy and monarchy! Any comments welcome, I just thought Id bring it up. --Camaeron 17:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

It's only a contradiction if you think the UK is a democracy :) I don't know what the system of government in the uk should be called really, but I would say the contradiction was in the government of the uk.

Some Sort Of Anarchist Nutter 23:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Except I think now only 78/c.1200 seats in the upper house are hereditary, taking the UK well below the US in terms of hereditary participation in Parliament/Congress. Johnbod 00:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Personally I dont think a democracy can ever work under human rule I just thought Id bring up the point. If the UK had to be one of three Id say that'd be monarchy.

And by the way Johnbod aristocracy neednt be hereditry. Not nowadays anyway. The Queen appoints many "newbie aristocrats" to sit in parliament. --Camaeron 15:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Boy, you really don't know much about the UK! Johnbod 15:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I should do, I am a subject of Her Majesty. I really didnt mean to offend incase it came accross rudely. On what do you ground your accusation? --Camaeron 17:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
In what sense are Life peers appointed by the Government "newbie aristocrats"? Are life-members of other upper-houses in Ireland etc aristoctrats? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbod (talk • contribs) 22:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
What youre saying amounts to this: "Life Peers are not aristocrats". Am I correct in thinking that is your opinion? If so I must disagree. All Peers are aristocrats but not all aristocrats are peers. Naturally Irelands Upper House members arent aristocrats. The British sense of Aristocracy differs from the international one. Aristocrats in Britain are members of the Peerage, Gentry, Nobilty or people of noble backgrounds. --Camaeron 11:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Exactly, whilst Life peers are only coincidentally these, and are politicians, businessmen, trade union leaders, minority "community leaders" & so on. Johnbod 14:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greek Aristocracy

There is alot of nonsense about the Greek aristocracy. About them leading their swords into battle... Nonsense! Aristo - crati means "rule of the best". The Greek nobility regarded itsself supperior towards the "normal" folk. Can someone please edit this??? --83.84.138.101 (talk) 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. SilkTork *What's YOUR point? 09:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)