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[edit] Disambig

Needs disambaugation page. ARIA is linked to other articles too.

[edit] Sylphid

well we certainly forget the old dilvery man use air bike who are sylphid the air fairy.

Re: Article referrring to Sylphs -- motorised water-buses (vaporettos) are used on the major canals and for sightseers on the canal leading up to the Hill of Hope. On smaller canals oar-powered gondolas are used for deliveries. Akari's old gondola is used for this purpose after it is replaced with a new one (see Navigation 36 in Volume 8). The Sylphs provide an alternate form of delivery service in Neo-Venezia, not the only one. Air bikes are also used as flying cranes (again, see Navigation 36 where Akari's old gondola is airlifted away from Aria Company). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.122.150 (talk) 12:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 640 X 480 wallpapers not Fair Use

Found these 640 X 480 wallpapers are uploaded using intentionally wrong stubs to avoid detection for deletion. These are not album covers, comic covers or screenshots but wallpapers. I have deleted these images links and marked images "no source" so this article meet the wikipedia's official policies.

Ugh, if you're so going to be so righteous and gung ho, how about uploading a replacement first then, before nuking them? Just save the image itself in thumbnail size and use that or whatever. Just removing them is annoying and unhelpful. Too many anime wiki pages lack character pictures as it is, don't add to the problem. 72.94.50.148 06:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, did it myself. I trust you won't take issue with the licensing now. if you still do, I at the very least expect you to explain what would be fair, and upload them in place of what I have here. Jxh2154 07:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, those are screenshots of the recently released ARIA PS2 game - not wallpapers. Although they don't reflect the actual art style of the anime or the manga, it still can be considered fair use. I have gone to add the necessary information on each picture, but have not restored it because it doesn't reflect the real art style. Karn-b 14:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quote source

A quote is used at the end of Akari Mizunashi's description, does anyone know which episode it is from? Directly naming the source will make this page look even better than it already is! Remy Suen 14:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

First episode of the anime, I don't know about the manga

[edit] About waves.

The trivia section says "No substantial waves are seen during the anime even though Aqua has two moons." For Mars, this would not be strange at all. The two moons around Mars are millions of times lighter than our moon. I guess they don't look very big from the Mars surface though (if seen at all) --Apoc2400 12:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, they look much smaller from the surface of Mars than our moon does; either way, though, they'd produce very little tides. But more of an issue is that waves aren't caused by tides in the first place, but winds. The statement is nonsensical and should be deleteed. Quasirandom 23:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. But I think the other main point here is that it's unsourced...Karn-b 16:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Even more, the first part also isn't accurate. There are no waves seen in the sounds of Neo-Venezia, except as wakes from boats and ships, but during an episode when Akari visits an island out in the Neo-Adriatic sea, there are waves on the shore. Quasirandom 18:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

In Ep3 of the first Aria anime run, Akari/Akia actually befriend little Alice after wittnessing her impressive navigation between heavy swells and big rocks. 91.83.1.68 (talk) 22:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Quote source

It's from the first episode of anime(ARIA The Animation)

and from

AQUA voyage 2 Navigation 6 (new ver.)
ARIA voyage 3 Navigation 11

219.79.37.4 01:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OVA release date

the ova is going to be release on 21-sept-2007

please refer to ARIA's official website (Japanese).

Pixy 132 01:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Athena's moniker?

Wouldn't "Siren" makes more sense as opposed to "Selene", considering her expertise? Could somebody confirm her official moniker?

Also, albeit through my limited Japanese skill, I feel that "天上謳声" means closer to something like "Voice of Heaven" rather than "Heaven Glory". Again, could somebody confirm this? - Scroogey McDucky 09:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Third season of anime announced

Per ANN, that is. I'd add this to the article, but that link (their own permalink, grumble grumble) doesn't work, and I haven't found another citation. Junichi Sato will direct again, with broadcast date not yet set. —Quasirandom 17:23, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is the demographic in the sidebar correct?

It's listed as "Seinen." Now, I'm not an expert on the different demographic categories, I have a working knowledge, but I've read the Aria manga and it doesn't strike me as seinen at all. Maybe someone on more sure ground than I can find a more appropriate category because I don't think this one fits. 10:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it is serialized in Comic Blade, a magazine aimed at males. ChuChu 13:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

It's seinen all right -- as seinen as Yotsuba&! and Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou. That's the primary demographic of Comic Blade (see its article). —Quasirandom 14:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I note, btw, that even reviewers at The Comics Journal get confused and think Aria is shoujo. We need a citation on that seinen Real Soon Now. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, on further research, Comic Blade is actually identified as older shonen. Oy. I'm copying the demographic citation from the magazine page to here. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused on the demographic myself as it was originally serialized in a shoujo magazine called Monthly Stencil before it was transferred to Comic Blade. Unless the creator of the manga changed the story to aim it towards boys after the transfer, wouldn't it still be considered shoujo, or was it also a shounen manga while it was being published in a shoujo magazine?AjaaniSherisu (talk) 22:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure that Monthly Stencil was shoujo? It ran series like Kamui (which moved to Monthly Gangan Wing, Juvenile Orion, and Minekura's Bus Gamer (which moved to Comic Rex), all solidly older shounen, if not seinen. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

According to the Japanese page for Aria, the Japanese page for Monthly Stencil and for the English page for KAMUI itself states it's shoujo, it is. So I'm guessing it was a shoujo magazine.AjaaniSherisu (talk) 03:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Which English page for Kamui? I'm not seeing it on the Wikipedia article, and it's in Monthly Gangan Wing, which is definitely not shoujo. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

That would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamui_%28manga%29 ^_^, and it states that KAMUI was also previously published in Monthly Stencil. AjaaniSherisu (talk) 04:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, there in the lead -- I was looking in the infobox. Um. I confess, I'm still dubious, but I'll defer to your ability to translate the Japanese pages. —Quasirandom (talk) 04:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Possibly there is no narrow-beam target group any more. I mean it is practically Japan's Harry Potter, so almost everybody has to be somewhat up to date on it, in order to avoid embarrassment if Aria/Aqua topics emerge in daily casual conversation. There is no need to burn each other at the stake over the shonen /seinen / shoju debate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.83.1.68 (talk) 22:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] English licencing state of Aria manga?

The link in question states that Tokyopop obtained the rights to Aqua, not Aria, and ANN still has ADV as the licensor of Aria (although it has mysteriously disappeared from their online catalogue; which can only lead to idle speculation I guess); and the second statement about TP re-releasing the first 3 volumes of Aria before Aqua is rather dubious; Aqua vol 1 is slated for release early October 2007 with no mention of any Aria managa release by TP.

Serrin 15:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

It's been on my to-do list to track down the press release I saw that claimed what the article said -- that TP had taken up the license for Aria as well as Aqua. I can't say anything one way or another about whether reissuing vol 1-3 was in the announcement till I find it. —Quasirandom 16:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Or we could just wait a few months and see if Tokyopop releases it. Serrin 12:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's scheduled to be release next week, according Amazon and ANN. So it looks like a Go. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Both Aria and Aqua are on the Tokyopop website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.151.127 (talk) 09:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Yup. And yanno, we should add the Aqua page to the External links. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:48, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other media

We should also at some point add a list of the soundtrack albums and the like, as part of other media. Not to mention a small production section mentioning the most important people. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I note, btw, that the ariacompany.net website lists a profusion of soundtrack albums, a couple drama CDs, and several artbooks, posterbooks, and a "guidebook". (Not to mention, among the characters, what looks to be the Ai-chan who Akari writes too -- when does she show up in the amine???) Someone with more Japanese than I could fruitfully pick out the highlights for the article. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Anyone have any information about the PS2 Aria game mentioned above? —Quasirandom (talk) 00:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

There are two games, one of the two to be released.

Aria the Natural : Mirage of far memory, 2006.9.28 First & Special édition, 2008.3.6 Value edition

http://www.alchemist-net.co.jp/products/ARIA_The_Natural/

Aria the Origination : The Blue Planet Erushiero (Rough translation), 2008.6.26 (Announced release date)

http://www.alchemist-net.co.jp/products/ARIA_The_Origination/

KrebMarkt(I hate to register) 2008.05.15

[edit] Removed signature expressions

I've removed the signature expressions section, in part because it's out of place in the list of chacters (icons are not characters) and in part because it's not an unusual thing in manga, and in part because it's not useful to someone who hasn't read the manga and not in need of explanation to someone who has. If others feel the info necessary, I suggest adding it to the individual character entries. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode lists

I've converted the episode lists into the format used by FA/GA anime articles. The template has a field for episode summary, which I included but commented out; for two episodes, where I remembered enough, I wrote descriptions, but leave the rest to others (it'll be a while before I have the time watch them again). Given the way the template works, the fields probably need to be uncommented all at once, rather than in pieces (you'll see what I mean if you try showing just the ones there).

Also, I started a table for the new season, which we can I hope fill in as they broadcast. —Quasirandom (talk) 01:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I've filled in "enough" fields to uncomment the summaries, with "to come" statements where I haven't gotten to them. Feel free to add what I haven't yet. As a rule of thumb, I try to keep summaries to two or at most three sentences. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dystopian Manhome?

It looks like this anime series is not truly light-hearted at all. Akari makes comments like it is no longer possible to swim in Manhome's oceans or safe to play in the dirt on Earth and she only ever saw water in a swimming pool before coming to Mars/Aqua. The relocation of major Earth-Venice buildings to Neo-Venetia is also mentioned in episode 1 or 2 of Aria The Origination anime, so neoV is not just a copycat, but more like a massive rescue attempt, because Italy's Venetia is sinking.

It looks like Earth has seen some kind of worldwide disaster (toxic pollution, global warming, etc.) and there are several indirect comments in the anime suggesting life on Manhome is a hard burden and people have difficulty make ends meet. How much of this is explained in the manga, are there any reasons given? Is it true that Aria's Manhome is actually YKK's devastated Earth? Why wasn't planet Aqua fixed to force waters retreat from the 90%+ it occupies, so more earthlings could settle.

The article should possibly address these issues in one or two paragraphs. 91.83.1.68 (talk) 22:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

If reliable sources can be found that already address this, yeah. The point of Wikipedia, though, is not to be a place that first publishes analysis like that, but summarize what has already been analyzed. (My impression is that most cities in Manhome are now domed, rather than a YKK-style collapse. For the waters, IIRC, there's a comment somewhere that Mars had more water in the polar icecaps than expected, with the implication that once it all melted there was no putting it back in the genii's bottle. Though that begs the question of letting the salamanders cool it down a little to refreeze some.) —Quasirandom (talk) 22:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] It WAS an on-going anime.

The article still lists the anime/manga as ongoing, even though Origination has finished for both. Supposedly it is truly over, as both of her cats have passed away in real life, so there is no more inspiration left. 91.83.1.68 (talk) 22:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoop -- looks like I missed a couple bits of ongoingness when I made those edits -- which now that I look, I see I only did on the episodes list. I think I have them all now. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Alice's first appearance in the manga.

In the manga, she actually made her very first appearance in the last chapter of Aqua vol. 2 (which I see, haven't been mentioned. Should that be pointed out or not? 80.212.151.195 21:59, 03 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but that was in an omake that was added in the Mag Garden reprint, which was published after her first magazine appearence in Aria -- with a note to see Aria for an explanation of who this is. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unit cost?

Anybody has a figure for production costs of a single Aria anime episode? On a forum I found an outragous sum mentioned and claims the creators use a special Fujinon system to pastel colour all the scenery porn, which is more than one-third of all costs. Sure it must have been relatively expensive but I am not quite willing to believe that hype. 91.83.16.172 (talk) 14:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The truth is Aqua there!

The article doesn't make an adequate mention of the psychidelic/mysthical part of Aqua's storyline. Especially the Natural anime has a good portion of its time devoted to supernaturally catking-powered out-of-place events, e.g. time travel, time stop, extra-dimensional mazes, which only Akari is able to fully experience.

Not especially frightening ones, but with a certain intimidating mood that reminds me of X-files TV series somehow. Because of this, Aria should not be for little kids, who haven't gone to elementary school at least. 91.83.16.172 (talk) 15:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I suspect those will be hard to source until the anime is released in English, later this year. Reviewers tend to notice age-appropriate issues. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Symbolism not addressed.

Neo-Venezia is decorated with weird rounded geometric patterns (like the bottom of floating island Ukiyama and the canal walls somewhere). IMHO these are tangentially similar to some celtic runestone carvings I saw in a museum. Is that notable? What is the significance of the rather silly-looking color patterns of those undine unifoms? 91.83.18.109 (talk) 17:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

For correspondences like that, it's not notable unless a reliable source out there has already noted them. In this case, what the mangaka or produces claim to have intended by the patterns would be perfect, if you can find it. (I've wondered at the uniform significance myself.) —Quasirandom (talk) 17:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alice in horrorland

The article makes no metion of Alice-chan's obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is probably more important than her tiny singing skills. A whole episode in the Natural run is devoted to her shadow-jumping obsession and the resulting bizarre behaviour. She cannot sleep without playing solo paper-rock-scissors first and winning it. She is also a sociopath or at least a human interactions "autist" and does not like to talk to anybody but Akari and Aika-sempai. She is a really troubled person. 91.83.18.109 (talk) 17:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

You are a faggot of the highest caliber.

[edit] Art book, poster books, etc external links

There are some external links with presentation or reviews of the various Aria related art book and co because i don't feel myself up to the task to include them in the main Aria article i'm putting them here so more experimented wiki users can edit the page accordingly.

ARIA The Natural Perfect Guide Book, review by Adun, 2007.01.04 http://www.moemoerabu.net/2007/01/04/aria-the-natural-perfect-guide-book/

ARIA Premium Poster Book 2, review by Adun, 2007.01.04 http://www.moemoerabu.net/2007/01/04/aria-premium-poster-book-2/

ARIA Premium Poster Book 3, review by Adun, 2008.01.06 http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/01/06/aria-premium-poster-book-3/

Monthly Undine #2 & #3, presentation by Adun, 2006.08.22 http://www.moemoerabu.net/2006/08/22/monthly-undine-volume-2-and-volume-3/

Monthly Undine #4 - #6, presentation by Adun, 2008.04.22 http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/04/22/monthly-undine-vol-4-6/

I think those links are pertinents to whose who want more graphical information about the contents of those various products regardless the "die-hard" fan attitude of the reviewer. KrebMarkt(I hate to register) 2008.05.15

It'd be nice if someone could root out all the OSTs OPs and EDs relating to Aria too. Since music is one of the biggest things involving the show 87.102.16.183 (talk) 23:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I am willing to help however i can't do it alone.

So far those i found :

ARIA The ANIMATION ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK

ARIA The ANIMATION OP Single - Undine [Makino Yui]

ARIA The ANIMATION ED Single - Rainbow [ROUND TABLE feat. Nino]

ARIA The ANIMATION Drama CD I BLUE

ARIA The ANIMATION Drama CD II RED

ARIA The ANIMATION Drama CD III ORANGE

ARIA The ANIMATION Perfect Guidebook CD

ARIA The NATURAL ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK

ARIA The NATURAL Vocal Song Collection

ARIA The NATURAL OP Single - Euforia [Makino Yui]

ARIA The NATURAL ED Single - Natsu Machi [ROUND TABLE feat. Nino]

ARIA The NATURAL Drama CD I

ARIA The NATURAL Drama CD II

ARIA The NATURAL Perfect Guidebook CD

ARIA The NATURAL ~Tooi Kioku no Mirage~ PS2 OP ED Single - BLUE BLUE WAVE [KAORI]

ARIA The OVA ~ARIETTA~ OP ED Single - Nana iro no Sora wo [SONOROUS & Hazuki Erino]

ARIA The ORIGINATION Drama CD II - Tsuki

ARIA The ORIGINATION Drama CD I - Yuki

ARIA The ORIGINATION Piano Collection II - Dipartenza

ARIA The ORIGINATION Original Soundtrack

ARIA The ORIGINATION ED Single - Kin no Nami Sen no Nami [Arai Akino]

ARIA The ORIGINATION OP Single - Spirale [Makino Yui]

ARIA The ORIGINATION Perfect Guidebook CD (upcomming/scheduled)

I should have missed a few, because in additions of the usuals soundtracks there are drama cd + bonus cd included in the perfect guides so it's harder to track them all.

It will require its own article aria_(manga)_soundtracks

KrebMarkt(I hate to register) 2008.06.07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.244.148.40 (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Added the few albums descriptions need people to check the spelling + someone to create a specific aria sountracks article.

KrebMarkt(I hate to register) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.244.148.40 (talk) 20:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Done the job at 95% miss Kanji title for Ashita, Yuugure Made & miss also the Aria video game single

Done also the raw work for the Drama + Radio CD, if you want to develop more, please have fun here :

http://aria.ffsky.cn/drama_anime_1st.htm

http://aria.ffsky.cn/drama_anime_2nd.htm

http://aria.ffsky.cn/drama_radio.htm

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARIA_The_STATION_Tricolore

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARIA_The_STATION_Due —Preceding unsigned comment added by KrebMarkt (talk • contribs) 17:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)