Talk:Area code 909
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[edit] 909/951/inland empire FBI Crime Rates
According to the FBI crime statistics report for year 2006 the 909/951 area codes have the third highest amount of crimes in the State of California at 51,237 crimes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.244.14.12 (talk) 07:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
These statistics that are being provided are for counties and not area codes. As some counties fall into one or more area codes it is not accurate to label an area code as a high crime area based on county statistics. Who decides what area code a crime falls into based on the information you have provided? If a crime is in LA County, what area code does that crime fall under? Using county statistics is unreliable. deviousdevelopment 12:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
The crime rate would be greater so the premise is the same with regards to the amount of crimes. Please explain to me how the sheer amount of crimes will be reduced if you include fringe cities? They wont, the amount of crimes will increase. Answer my question. By using these two counties and tabulating the amount of crimes in these two counties, they already are the third highest in the state of California. If you include cities such as Pomona, Diamond Bar, La Verne etc it will only add to the total amount of crimes. So once again please tell me how the amount of crimes will go down if these "fringe" cities are added to the tabulation? The amount of crimes is already high and will only be a higher amount once these other 909 cities are added to the tabulations. There is no way that the crimes can be reduced by including more areas. The statement is true. So once again, if you can prove that by adding "fringe" cities will somehow reduce the total amount of crimes representative in the 909/951 area codes then you may have a point. Until such date your premise does not hold any water.
Riverside is not entirely in the 909 area code. Therefore you cannot know if the crimes were committed within the 909 or 951 area code. Likewise, San Bernardino County has two area codes and the data provided does not say wether the crimes were commited in the 951 or 909 area code. Simply put, Wikipedia is a place for facts. County figures do not translate into area code figures. If you would like to add factual data saying the 909 has one of the highest crime rates or add data from each city within California showing a total for the area code then please do so. THE COUNTIES OF SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE HAVE 2 AREA CODES. YOU CANNOT SAY HOW MUCH CRIME WAS COMMITTED IN EITHER, THEREFORE YOU CANNOT USE COUNTY CRIME RATES FOR AREA CODE CRIME RATES deviousdevelopment (talk • contribs) 00:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
If you subtract the cities in San Bernardino County, and Riverside County that are not in the 951/909 area codes but add in the areas that are border cities that do have the area code the amount of crimes is similiar to the numbers in the aforementioned statement. Go to this [1] webpage it shows the crime statistics from the tabulations on that webpage there are 12646 crimes that occured in cities that are not in the "909/951" area codes.
When you Subtract cities that are not in the 909/951 but in SB/Riverside County areas such as
Apple Valley @ 2343 Crimes Cathedral City @ 2009 Crimes Victorville @ 4201 Crimes Adelanto @ 625 Crimes Palm Desert/Rancho Mirage/Palm Springs/Coachella,etc @ 3468 Crimes
You get 12646 Crimes
When you add in the crime rate of cities that are in the 909 area code (but in LA County) cities such as:
Claremont @ 1188 Crimes Diamond Bar @ 1003 Crimes La Verne @ 869 Crimes Pomona @6706 Crimes San Dimas @984 Crimes Walnut @544 Crimes
You get a net loss of 1352 crimes, How does this change my statement, the net amount of crimes is 49885.....This actually catapults The 909/951 Area Codes to having a greater amount of crimes than Los Angeles County which would then have 43914 crimes (once deducted those border cities from LA county totals). Please do your research, its easy to be an armchair editer but when you actually look at the data it paints the same picture. Thanks..
Armchair editor huh? It's not my job to do your research for you. And why are you including the 951 area code? Your adding of the numbers for a few cities not in the 909 area code and then adding those in LA County in the 909 area code does ot consitute factual evidence or research. Add up all 909 (not 951) area code city crime rates and we can talk.
Stop deleting facts. The 951/909 is part of the same MSA so it is relevant information. Which areas am I adding that are not in the 909/951 area codes, in the 951 wiki its the same deal the 909/951 are part of the same MSA they are related area codes. Some cities in LA County are in the 909 area code that is why they were included (remember you requested this).
Which cities are not in the 909 area code? you better check yourself before deleting relevant facts damn is this guy a wiki abuser or what? the facts are the facts just calm down and stop deleting factual data. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.175.126.181 (talk) 06:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 909 is Northern Inland Empire
There was a line in here about "909er" being a derogatory term for anyone from the Northern Inland Empire. I changed it to read that it refers to anyone from anywhere in the inland empire, including the new 951 area code. People from the new 951 area code are still refered to as 909ers, much to their chagrin.
[edit] 909er
I have lived all over Southern California and have met many, many people from all areas of Southern California. I have never heard the term 909er used and although it may have been used once on a television show (or by a few high school students)I do not think it relevant to the area code or notable in any way. deviousdevelopment 05:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 909 Inconsistant map
There seems to be an inconsistancy between the large map and small map for the 909 area. I'm not sure which or both is correct.
