Talk:Archaic Homo sapiens

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I don't believe that this article should be merged with the Neandertals article. Although homo sapiens neandertalensis is qualified as a form of archaic homo sapiens, not all archaic homo sapiens fall under the category of Neandertals. For example, there is the possibility that homo heidelbergensis is a form of archaic homo sapiens, as it is sure that another form of archaic h.s., homo sapiens idaltu, should not be qualified as a neandertal. In addition, there is the possibility that other species of archaic h.s. have yet to be discovered, therefore the category should be kept in close relation to, but not subsumed by, Neandertals. Blue Mage Az 00:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC)Blue_Mage_Az

Neaderthalensis is not a qualified for of Homo sapiens. DNA shows that we do not share any DNA with them (but they do with us). 131.91.92.184 (talk) 20:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I also disagree with the merge. This term is somewhat troublesome in that it (like Cro magnon) is used in Anthropology but is not a species name. It denotes early homo sapiens sapiens that have somewhat different anatomical features. It does not refer to neaderthals who are a different species (or subspecies). I wish it were more clear and maybe we could have something like homo sapiens archaic, but I have not seen any scientific backing for that kind of classification. Nowimnthing 23:06, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

The title should refer to "Archaic Homo sapiens" as "Archaic Homo" in this way it can be more inclusive. I'm a graduate student in anthropology and I am not aware of anyone using "Archaic Homo sapiens" in the literature. The name change would make it so that antecessor, rhodesiensis, heidelbergensis and neaderthalensis can be given an overview here. [Special:Contributions/131.91.92.184|131.91.92.184]] (talk) 20:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where did the date for the Valltorta painting come from?

I'm just curious where the author got the information that the Valltorta painting dates to 13,000 years ago. That area of the world happens to be my academic specialty, and I don't think I've seen anyone argue for that kind of antiquity since the Abbé Breuil first studied the paintings in the early 1900s. I would like to know what the reference is so that I can look it up!

In any case, a better example of palaeolithic cave art would be someplace like Lascaux, Chauvet Cave or Altamira. I changed the image reference for this page accordingly. Mander (talk) 07:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

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