Talk:Arabic music

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[edit] Homophony

Homophony is a form of harmony, so perhaps the statement should just be that Arabic music does not use harmony. Trontonian

The following sentence doesn't make sense: "That doesn't mean that Arab music doesn't contain polyphonic pieces, as the instrument Qanoun is based upon the idea of playing two-notes chords, but quintessentially, Arabic music is melodic." Two note chords are not polyphonic, and polyphony is not harmony. If Arabic music is polyphonic then it would be entirely melodic. See: Musical texture. Hyacinth 22:28, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic music --> Arab music

I think this should be at Arab music, because otherwise it could be interpreted to be referring to music with lyrics in the Arabic language, which I don't think is meant.

[edit] Non-classical?

I believe the article describes only classical arab music (sacred music being the same with sacred lyrics and purpose), though the only source (so far) did in no way elaborate on the topic of folk or popular musics, though Arab countries and people do have folk and popular music. Hyacinth 03:18, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] John Zorn muslim?

Does anyone have a reference for the assertion that Zorn is a convert? He is in any case not an Arab, so does this information (and that about Richard Thompson and Cat Stevens) belong here? -- Ferdinand Pienaar 10:27, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

They all belong at Muslim music, if anywhere. Hyacinth 03:36, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maqamat

This is a strange entry: Maqamat music as practiced by Turks and Arabs and before the development of Dastgah in Persia did not originate in Spain. It originated in the Persian courts of the Sassanids in Iraq and Iran as the persistence and proponderance of Middle Persian terms in Maqamat vocabulary attest. Persians may have been the pioneers and early theoreticians of the Maqam system but it was the Turks who devloped the orchestral versions of Maqamat. However given that the maqamat system has given way to the more academic but more boring Dastgah system in Iran and given that the Turks can not make up their minds about whether they are proud of their past or not, it is the Arab Musicians not only in the sophisticated metropoles of Cairo and Lebanon but also in more simple yet authentic places like North Africa and the Gulf that are the true heirs of the maqamat system. - DeusAhrimanus (signed by Hyacinth)

[edit] Female Slaves

A- this section in particular really needs to be cleaned up B - is there any evidence at all that "Little Egypt" was a "slave girl"? Why is this even included in this section? "In 1893, "Little Egypt", a belly-dancer from Syria, appeared at the Chicago world's fair and caused a sensation."~~Flora

[edit] Requested move

I believe the accurate and most used term is Arabic music. Arabic music includes music song by non-Arabs. -- Szvest 12:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC) User:FayssalF/Sign

I'm being bold and moving the article to Arabic music as per:
Also per google:
You are absolutely correct. Thanks for making that move. Tiamut 16:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Under construction

I've just placed a tag. The article has been stuck in a status quo. It is totally unorganized and spontaneous. Please help reorganize it. -- Szvest → Wiki Me Up ® 12:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links too commercial

It was frustrating looking through those external links. I can't see any reason why Wikipedia should link to commercial music websites that want to sell their wares. The links should only go to non-commercial sites, who are willing to allow their free music examples to be downloaded in full. Otherwise, it's better to have no links at all, than links to commercial music sites. 203.206.237.126 21:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Musical Influence

The lead section of this article gives an informal list of which music types influenced and were influenced by Arabic music, but does not distinguish of which are the latter/former. I think explicitly listing which has been influenced and which has done the influencing would be very informative (as I myself would like to know!), or perhaps even devoting a small sub-section to a snippet of Arabic music's closely related "geneology" might serve even better. - 74.12.81.237 05:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turkish Music?!?!

I removed the reference to Turkish Arabesque (or rather, Arabesk) music under the 'regional styles' section because, well, Turkey isn't an Arab state. There certainly has been influence going both ways, and this cross cultural pollination can be discussed on it's own merits, preferably under a more general Middle Eastern and/or Islamic music article. I'm also thinking that section should be cleaned up in general, perhaps expanded to talk about specifically regional styles like Algerian rai, Egyptian chaabi and al-geel, the khaleeji music of the Gulf, and so forth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zekeriyah (talk • contribs) 07:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

al-jeel or jeel music and no al geel ?--Mario scolas (talk) 07:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some More Changes

All right, I made a couple more changes here. For a start, whoever started this article seemed to focus too much on female artists. Mind you, there is a bias in Arabic music towards female singers, but I was a little bothered by the lack of reference to, say, Mohammed Abdel Wahab or Abdel Halim Hafez. I think this article needs to be fleshed out a little more, including reference to both classical Arabic music, and more regional styles. Some editing to remove non-pertinent parts would probably help too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zekeriyah (talk • contribs) 08:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)