Talk:Apollyon
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Abaddon, Abaddon (demon), and Apollyon: there's much confusion and overlap that needs sorting out. —Charles P. (Mirv) 17:28, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
What is the source for pointing out that the LDS or Mormon church believes Apollyon to be Michael? I have never heard of that before? If there is no reliable source I would prefer that the reference of the Mormon church believing Apollyon to be Michale be removed.
The current view on Apollyon is all wrong. Many early church fathers like Commodian viewed Apollyon differently. He cannot be the Beast as the following verses attest:
9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
Quite obvious here that these armies are those of more of an avenging angel who is the *overlord* of the underworld but not the Beast or Satan. He does not wage war on the elect or anything nor does he actually kill anyone, but simply 'hurts' those without the seal. Apollyon is never described as rising from the pit, only his army. He may be the angel that descends from heaven with the key to the bottomless pit.
The description of the army closely matches that in Joel where it is described as an army of God.
Joel 2:11 The LORD raises his voice at the head of his army; For immense indeed is his camp, yes, mighty, and it does his bidding. For great is the day of the LORD, and exceedingly terrible; who can bear it?
[edit] Apollo Program
Any ideas why the NASA called one of their space programs Apollo ("devil" / "destroyer") ? I heard, there's some relation to free masonry (many astronauts are said to be free masons) and their "god", Apollyon.
--85.1.34.196 18:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WP:NPA
please be sensitive in matters of religion. Ice9Tea 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Libel
user at IP address 66.177.5.252 as per Wikipedia policy on Libel, which is that it should not be done on Wikipedia pages, and per WP:3RR which states that in the case of reverting to remove Libel it does not apply, and because linking to websites that defame Jehovah's Witnesses has been done repetedly to this article, I will continue to revert to remove it as often as is necessary. please stop it. Wonderpet 00:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
