Talk:Apocryphon of John
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What version of the apocryphon this article handles? In what amount it relates to the version found in Nag Hammadi, which is also given as a link on the article [1]? Since that text doesn't contain words like "five hundred and fifty days since he had risen from the dead" or "Peter and I gave thanks and sent our hearts upward toward heaven. We heard with our ears [..]", mentioned in the article. The text doesn't even mention Peter at all, but in this article he is an important person. Only the initial text "the teaching of the saviour, and the revelation of the mysteries [..]" seems to match with the Nag Hammadi version. --Tomisti 11:26, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Are we really using elaine Pagels as a source? --user:MathaytaceChristou
Re: Jung and Voegelin. I dind't think Jung had access to the Apocryphon of John, he had access to the Jung codex of course, but it didn't contain ApocJn, from what I understand, it only had codex I with lots of Valentinian stuff. His source on the mythology within ApocJn was really Irenaeus, etc., and yes that does contain the underlying story outline, but this part should perhaps be in the section on Sethianism instead? Did Voegelin get into detail with the Apoc John or was he similarly more into Irenaeus, etc? I haven't read Order in History, I do know that in New Science of Politics and in Science, Politics, and Gnosticism, he doesn't mention the ApocJohn nor does he get into details with Irenaeus. SquirleyWurley 03:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
