Talk:Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany

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A fact from Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 6 June 2008.

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This article is very well-written. I've often heard the the anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany used as a straw person argument against all anti-smoking campaigns. I'm glad to see that Wikipedia was able to produce a neutral and highly informative article about a subject which is too often only a talking point. Savidan 19:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have studied the subject well before creating this article. Actually it is Robert N. Proctor, he did extensive research on this topic and in his book Nazi War on Cancer detailed the Nazi anti-tobacco measures very well. As you can see from the article, Nazi Germany was the first nation to identity the link between lung cancer and tobacco and Nazi sponsored anti-smoking movement was the strongest in the 1930s and 1940s until the collapse of the Nazi government. And what you have heard is right that pro-tobacco advocates try to depict the present day anti-tobacco movement as being borrowed from Nazis, thus they label any anti-smoking movement as a Nazi method. Here is an article which says " Today's Anti-Smoking Purge Is Borrowed From The Nazis". But it is misrepresentation of historical facts. By that definition, any ballistic missile will be "Nazi missile" because the V-2 rocket was world's first ballistic missile. There is no relation between modern anti-smoking movement and Nazi anti-smoking campaign. The tobacco industry try to misrepresent historical facts and apply several logical fallacy to weaken the anti-tobacco movement. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 20:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

however, today's anti-smoking advocates actually use some of the same odious techniques utilized by the nazis, depicting smokers as lesser individuals and hopeless addicts. now, today they don't actually say 'subhuman', etc. but the implication is clear. single-minded, bureaucratic, one-issue individuals such as today's rabid anti-smoking advocates are cut from the same cloth as the people that 'just went along' with the nazis. that is why the anti-tobacco people often use that particular argument. big business capitalism (pro-tobacco) vs. big government socialism (anti-tobacco)... neither one is more evil than the other.