Talk:Anti-consumerism

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Did someone mean something other than what they wrote?

"Anti-corporate activism often has parallels with environmental activism and anti-globalization, and sometimes animal-rights activism, in their condemnation of the practices of modern organizations such as the McDonald's Corporation (see McLibel). There is also significant overlap between anti-consumerism and anti-globalization."

Since this is not an article on anti-corporate activism, which is defined as being distinct from anti-consumerism only one paragraph before the one quoted above, what does the first sentence in the paragraph above have to do with anti-consumerism? It doesn't mention anti-consumerism even *once*, instead talking about anti-corporate activism, a seperate subject.

I'm going to remove the sentence, and if the original author wants to come in and clarify what they'd originally intended to write, they don't even have to go into history, because the whole thins is quoted right up there above. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.181.120.218 (talk • contribs) 22 April 2006.

-- Theres only mention of right critique of this 'movement' - are there any left critiques of it? I also find it strange that calling it Marxism Lite is critique at all; There are many prominent (libertarian and neo-) Marxists, like Negri and Habermas, why would it being connected with marxism qualify as critique at all, be it true or not?--Aryah 02:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

  • thanks aryah, the sentance meant to say "anti-consumerism has parallels..." Upon creation, this page was once a collection of wiki-plagerism from different articles. I also agree the criticism section could use some work. Spencerk 14:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Link to Video of Anti-Consumerism Discussion

I believe that this video of Judith Levine discussing her book Not Buying It: My Year Without Shopping adds to the value of the article and should be published in the external links section. I would appreciate it if another editor would add it. Thank you.


[edit] Merge request

I see no need to merge the two topics (Affluenza and this one.) Anti-consumerism is a movement or standpoint while affluenza is a byproduct (so it is argued) of consumerism.

This would be like merging, say, seasonal affective disorder with an article on the Samaritans. Nach0king 18:35, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I don't really understand the rationale for the proposed merger, either. —AldeBaer 23:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

--Seriously, linking to a guy's blog? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.58.83.43 (talk) 03:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Outrageous statement

"Namely, libertarians believe that no person has the right to decide for (or even suggest to) others what goods are "necessary" for living and which are not, or that luxuries are necessarily profligate, and thus argue that anti-consumerism is a precursor to central planning or a totalitarian society."

Honestly, do libertarians really believe anything that opposes their dogmatic views leads to totalitarianism? I'm removing this in a few days if this is not sourced. The Legend of Miyamoto (talk) 21:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Considering your rather open dislike of libertarians, I find it hard to beleive that you plan on deleting the criticisms out of good faith. The statement is not presenting the Libertarian viewpoint as fact, merely as a political philosophy. Providing clear cut sources showing that anti-consumerism leads to totalitarianism, (ignoring possible historical examples, such as communism in general) would warrant an entirely different entry other than the mere fact that Libertarians and Anti-Consumerists do not see eye-to-eye on these issues. While this does warrent a citation, it warrents one that shows that Libertarians do indeed hold this position on anti-consumerism. If you honestly think this statement requires sources to prove an opinion, then I would ask you to apply such scrutiny to other statements in the non-critical areas of this article. In the meantime, I re-added the statement. --Tiler (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)