Talk:Anti-Federalism

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[edit] President Jefferson and the Anti-Federalist Platform

what do you think about Thomas Jefferson strengthened the Anti-federalist platform during his time as President?

I think that the Anti-Federalist movement was a decade dead and gone when Jefferson was President. — DLJessup 13:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

A lot of classical historians would agree with you. But Jefferson was Anti-Federalist to the bone... right up until the moment he became president. He fought the Federalists on a populist but social-libertarian platform. How much more Anti-Federalist can you get? I think most historians agree that he either heavily compromised or lost sight of his goals when he became president. Fearwig 05:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I belive that since Thomas Jefferson was an Anti-federalist he purposely strengthened their platform while he was president.

[edit] Disambiguation

I motion that this be turned into a disambiguation page, or that it simply provide a disambiguation link to Hamilton's "Anti-Federalist" / "Anti-Administration" party. That has its own article already, and rightfully so. This article should also be renamed to correspond to the Federalist counterpart ("Federalist Party (United States)"). There is a big logical difference between anti-federalism and the Anti-Federalist party, and that needs to be enunciated. Fearwig 05:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll lay this all out. What we need isn't a disambiguation page, but a split, so that:

• Anti-Federalist Party (United States) (currently and incorrectly a redirect to this article),
• Anti-Administration Party (United States) (some information seems to be contained here on that topic despite the existence of an article on the topic), and
• anti-federalism (political concept, including some platforms of the policy but not defined by the party itself or its history)

--are made distinct (see federalism and Federalist Party (United States) for comparison). The concept of anti-federalism is distinct from the Anti-Federalist Party (just as republicanism is distinct from the Republican Party), and as such this article is misnamed. The Washington-era "Anti-Federalist Party" doesn't belong here at all, since, as the article states, it was correctly called the Anti-Administration Party (United States). This means that some work will need to be done to Anti-Federalist Party (United States) using this information, and that anti-federalism will have to be created from scratch, but it's definitely necessary to correct this mistake.Fearwig 01:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

"(not to be confused with the modern Republican Party)." Not to be confused with the modern euro-socialist Democratic party either! 70.196.55.103 16:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes Dec. 30 2007

I've considered all discussion on this article and used my own understanding of early U.S. political history to make today's changes. If anyone objects to this feel free to change them back. I felt that the heading "Anti-Federalism in the Early 19th Century" was completely misleading, as it seemed to refer to the political conflicts of Washington's (and to some extent J. Adams's) administrations. I changed some language concerning the agendas of the two proto-parties that seems to me to come from the 1911 EB; this probably needs sourcing, which I'll try to provide soon. In any event it's no more poorly supported than what was there already. Again, I'm sorry if these unilateral changes are offensive to anyone, but I think the article either needed removal or some basic surgery (maybe it still does).User:jperrlylsu 72.219.10.130 (talk) 01:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)