Talk:Antestor

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The statement that Antestor is one of only two Christian Metal groups on a secular label is incorrect. I know of at least one other group, Mehida, which fits that description. They are on Napalm Records, which is a secular label. I wanted to note this before making any changes, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.126.163.20 (talk) 06:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No it is not incorrect. The statement says "..the only two Christian black metal groups on a secular label..". Mehida is not a black metal band, and Napalm Records is not a black metal label like Cacophonous is. Thus, Antestor and Horde remain their status' as Christian black metal bands that have had a record deal with a secular label. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 11:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Azure Shrieker is right. Mehida is definitely not black metal. I don't know about the complete validity of the statment, though. There are black metal bands such as Vaakevandring and Drottnar that are considered Christian Metal(by some - many) and are on secular labels. They might not be on a label devoted to black metal, but it would still be considered secular. It's pretty accurate, though. Chrieraux (talk) 20:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, the source of that statement is pretty dated, written in 2001. Since years have passed, surely there must be some Christian black metal band on a secular label currently? Vaakevandring and Drottnar are definitely Christian bands, but I think Endtime Productions is a "Christian label." Open Grave Records is a secular label, albeit run by a Christian, but Frost Like Ashes and some other groups are signed to its imprint, Sullen Records. Yup, I'll probably change that statement.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 20:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GAN on hold

• Have a look at the prose in the lead...it doesn't read well when every sentence starts with "Antestor..."
• 1st and 2nd paragraphs of first section would probably work better merged...
• In fact, work on short paragraphs throughout
• "Arctic Serenades Records was originally sopposed to release that album but, because of some problems, another label, Morphine Records, only pressed 50 bootleg copies of that album." - 1) What were the problems? 2) It sounds awkward jumping to them pressing 50 copies...would read better to say that Morphine took the job of releasing
• Dates throughout need wlinking per MOS:SYL
• "The promo-CD caught the interest of British Cacophonous Records, one of the biggest labels with experience in the black metal style." - needs ref
• The style section is pretty much unsourced....no critical analysis of their music?
• "Most of all, the group has always been a cult favorite of a small audience rather than a mainstream success." - most of all doesn't sound good...maybe "Generally" (and it'd need some sort of source)
• "As for critical reception," - this statement isn't necessary...

Mostly looks good...leave me a note when done. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 11:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Small question

What makes any of those reliable sources? Make the discography section like Blur (band), which is pretty much standard for band articles (this section is supposed to be a brief overview, the other info is in the prose anyway). indopug (talk) 21:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Completed the tasks. Those sources are pretty much as reliable as possible for such an underground subject as this. I tried to make sure to cite review sites an other places that are acclaimed at least in the metal scene. And there are even some newspaper sources with wiki articles.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

All looks good here; passing. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 07:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

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Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 07:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)