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I added the BBC thing to show she's notable. I'm thinking of removing the "unclear importance" deal.--T. Anthony 13:40, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- I removed it, see history: 17:12, 3 November 2006 BNutzer (References and sources added, rm {{notability}}, the list of credits plus her albums prove notability in my view). Cheers, BNutzer 13:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Missing biographical data?
Valrith, could you explain what exactly you find missing in this article so that you keep adding {{cleanup-bio}} to it? As far as I can tell, lots of articles about musicians hardly contain much biographical data beyond place and date of birth??? Regards, BNutzer 13:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm going to guess Valrith wants some information on her as a person, rather than just as a musician, but I'm not sure what to do there. Even her website's biography[1] is not exactly full of personal information, unless "she met her partner and musical collaborator Jennifer Maidman" means something like "her life partner" and if that's so the phrasing is fairly ambiguous.--T. Anthony 14:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Reading more it's unambiguized, maybe.--T. Anthony 14:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- What T. Anthony said. I'd like to see something about her life. Right now it's more like a resume written in nice prose. And as to the fact that other musician articles are deficient too, I see no reason to set the standard that low... Valrith 15:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- In general, a stub tag is considered fair warning that an article is incomplete, and, in and of itself, constitutes a request for expansion, so it could be argued that the cleanup-bio and expand-article tags are redundant. Those tags, in my opinion, are really more intended for articles that have had a lot of work, but are still missing significant features. In other words, in cases where it may not be so immediately apparent that the article still needs significant work. I agree that the low quality of other articles (and it's not just limited to musicians) is irrelevant. On the other hand, if you think it should be expaned, why aren't you expanding it? :) Xtifr tälk 00:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree it's redundant on Stubs or Starts, since that's why they're assessed that way. See this line from our Quality Assessment guideline for Start articles: "This article usually isn't developed enough for a cleanup tag: it still needs to be built." Now, for B articles, it makes sense, in fact, in our B definition, we have: "Articles for which cleanup is needed will typically have this designation to start with."
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 06:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
