Talk:Angra Mainyu/Archive1
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[edit] Final Fantasy
Both Ahriman and Angra Mainyu are the names of monsters in Square Enix's Final Fantasy series of computer role-playing games. Ahriman resembles a winged eyeball, and its signature attack involves inflicting a variety of status ailments (most commonly petrification) on its opponents. Ahriman has appeared in multiple Final Fantasy titles, starting with Final Fantasy III. Angra Mainyu, on the other hand, first appeared as a optional boss in the game Final Fantasy X-2. The two monsters look completely different. Also, in Final Fantasy XI, Angra Mainyu is the "Boss" of the area called Dynamis - Beaudecine. He looks like a demonic Ahriman.
I removed this from the article body. Possibly someone can copy this into a Final Fantasy article. Chelman 21:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- As to User:freestylefrappe's restoration of the Final Fantasy content:
The topic of that subject is a character from Persian Mythology and not one from the computer game. Feel free to create a separte subject for that particular character as well as a disambiguation page if you feel the need to have the topic discussed.
I did not delete the content but moved it to the talk page with the suggestion of someone crating a separate article on the FF character. This is the normal procedure for that kind of topic. See the following examples:
I particularly suggest you check out Tiamat which is not only a mythical figure but also a Final Fantasy character.
It was removed from the article because it bears no relevance to the subject, which relates to the mythical figure Angra Mainyu and NOT the game character. Chelman 12:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Ahriman - redirect
Would it not be better to use the standard "Ahriman redirects here. For other uses, see Ahriman (disambiguation)" formula and template, and create the disambiguation page? It's a bit confusing if you come to this article directly to see these messages about something with a different name. Palmiro | Talk 13:15, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] comments
Hello everyone.
Someone should point to references of Ahriman from the old Avestan litterature For example, the persian classical writing "Drayishn-i Ahriman o Divan" should be mentioned, and also "Arda Viraf". The seven Divas (demons) should also be named
The seven archdemons of the Daevas are: Aesma Daeva, Aka Manah, Indra, Nanghaithya, Saurva, Tawrich and Zarich.
It should probably also be mentioned that in the theosophic writings of Rudolf Steiner and H.P. Blatavsky, Ahriman is used as a term for describing their "Ahriman-Lucifer" model, which has nothing to do with Ahrimans original role in the Persian writings.
The three-headed dragon Azi-Dahaka is a very important demon in old persian literature, and his strong link with Ahriman should be mentioned in this article.
I think scholars have drawn comparisons between the Seven Daevas and the classical Seven Demons of ancient Sumerian litterature. (and also the obvious parallells between the christian seven deadly sins, and the Seven Hells from hebrew/jewish literature.
There also exists a very famous legend about Ahriman as the creator of the Peacock. This has an esoteric weight to it, and should be mentioned. I think the story can be found at www.avesta.org, but we should have a summary of it, at least. The story proves an interesting point, that Ahriman has a free will and is not restricted to merly replicate/mirror the actions of the Creator Spirit Ahura Mazda.
And what about this ancient demonologys influence over modern Arabic religion like Islam? (where Daevas become Djinn and Ahriman becomes Iblis)
These are my comments anyway, hope they prove valuable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.125.176.40 (talk • contribs).
