Talk:Angel Heart

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Horrible Article It describes the ending indepth in the plot overview, for chrissakes. It tells you about how Cyphre is Satan in one of the beginning paragraphs... I wonder how many people have had the film ruined for them by reading this criminal article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.193.240 (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 ending 2 Louis Cyphere or Louis Cyphre? 3 Angel Heart and Oedipus compared 4 Disambiguation? 5 Incorrect Character 6 dead person at the very beginning 7 Chickens and Fans

[edit] ending

come on folks. what kind of encyclopedia is this? the plot/summary/spoiler section DOES not describe the ending. it merely says "bla bla bla there's a TWIST ENDING." is this supposeds to be promotional material, or is this an encyclopedia? somebody, please, please, please put the ending information in. (don't worry about spoiling it: anybody who comes here will have already seen the movie most likely, and besides that, there's a huge "SPOILER" warning in the article text.) i don't know what the ending is, so i can't do it. somebody: get on the job. bravo, thanks, good work. 128.119.236.162 06:25, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Looking at a variety of other "twist ending" films -- Sixth Sense, The Crying Game, etc. -- I'm not seeing the entire plot spelled out. It's unclear if this encyclopedia needs to give a complete plot synopsis for every film. -- Metahacker 03:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Did anybody else notice the similarities between the ending of this movie and the ending of The Devil's Advocate? Actor playing the devil in human form, lawyers involved, incest, the devil revealing his true nature and that of the film's protagonist while playing a phonograph? Moe Aboulkheir

Unfortunately the ending is given:

...Angel must finally face the fact that he is Johnny Favorite himself...

And there is no spoiler warning. I would fix it but I'm sure someone will just undo it. Kwyjibear 04:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Louis Cyphere or Louis Cyphre?

On http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092563/ it refers always to "Louis Cyphre", and not "Louis Cyphere". I'm going to change that in the article.-Zingazin 18:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Angel Heart and Oedipus compared

I think that a very good parallel can be made between these two stories comparing their plots.--Zingazin 20:29, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

this is certainly true- consider that cyphere's line to johnny/harold when he reveals his identity to him- "alas, how terrible is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise, johnny ?"- is a paraphrase from sophocles. there is also the incest between angel and his daughter. i seem to remember a professor once saying that there was intertextuality between this movie and a certain one of shakespeare's plays, though i can't remember which one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.25.209 (talk) 20:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation?

There is also an anime titled "Angel Heart" - 68.97.135.143 05:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect Character

Guys, the text on "Nightmares" says about the figure in black: "it was Louis Cyphre, who is seen wearing the black clothing outside Harry's apartment when he finally admits his fate at the end of the film". It is NOT Robert DeNiro's Cyphre, it is the real Harry Angel character. At the beginning, he comes up out of Hell in the same elevator Favorite takes down at the end, to witness the events. Just look at his face when they finally show it - that's not DeNiro. Hanz ofbyotch —Preceding comment was added at 21:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually that is De Niro, but playing the role of the actual Harry Angel (ie before the surgery). One of the points in the movie was that the devil assumed the look of the real Harry while walking the Earth, probably as a test to see if Harry/Johnny would react to seeing his old self. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.45.237 (talk) 05:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I stand corrected, I left Parker's commentary on for that scene. It took many, many, minutes but I can see it's DeNiro now. I like what you said about the real Harry Angel, I put that in my head as well.Hanz ofbyotch —Preceding comment was added at 21:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dead person at the very beginning

Does anybody know who is the dead person we see in a dark alley right after the opening credits?

[edit] Chickens and Fans

Chickens and Fans are repeated motifs in the film should this be stated somewhere? The themes section perhaps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.246.235 (talk) 10:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)