Talk:Andronikos I Komnenos

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Contents 1 Comments 2 so... 3 yes ... 4 Not Kiev?

[edit] Comments

I am looking for a book entitled "Against the Fall of Night" by M. Arnold about this particular emperor and his times. Any info please posts here. Thank you.

Tried a google search?

Thanks for the pointer, anon. I have added it to the bibliography. Andrew Dalby http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dalby/ 14:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] so...

Was he the last true emperor of the Komnenian restoration? Under his rule he implemented "wise measures" though the effectiveness of these is not stated. Tourskin

[edit] yes ...

1. Yes, I suppose so, although the Angeloi who followed were close relatives -- cousins, roughly.
2. I think the "wise measures" is a phrase out of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. There's something in it, perhaps, but in practice these measures were negated by Andronikos's unfortunate blind spots. Trying to wipe out the aristocracy was maybe not such a good idea. A bit of rewriting wanted, perhaps? Andrew Dalby 10:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
3. Agreed. After reading the book Byzantium: The Decline and Fall (with a chapter entitled "Andronikos the Terrible"), Andronikos does not come off as a 'strong but wise' ruler but rather a paranoid despot. Even given that the book is wrong about this (though it is meticulously researched), the Wikipedia entry has a serious internal logic problem since the people that "appreciate" his brutal measures inexplicably side with Isaac Angelicus and publicly torture Andronikos brutally. Terram 19:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not Kiev?

Surely the capital of the Principality of Galicia was Halych (Galich), not Kiev. Kiev was a principality itself, hundreds of miles to the east of Galicia, and at the time of Andronicus' escape was ruled by Rostislav. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urselius (talk • contribs) 19:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I've just spotted what the problem is, Yaroslav Prince of Galicia was not the same person as Yaroslav II, Grand Prince of Kiev. Urselius 19:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)