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[edit] Zimbabwe 2000 quote

Looking at the 2004 Observer article and the match report on Cricinfo.com (references 1 and 2 respectively on the page's current list), the 2 sources quote Flintoff differently after the match: the former says he said "All right for a fat lad", the latter "I played all right for a fat boy". I guess he didn't say both so does anyone have any idea which is accurate? It's not the most important thing in the world but it may as well be right if it can be confirmed. I'd probably trust Cricinfo's report at the time, of the two, which is why I chose that one when I added it to the article, anyone else have any views? Jimbow25 23:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tattoo

What's the tattoo that Freddie has on his arm. Looks like "XI" but not sure. And does anyone know the significance of it? It should probably get a mention in the trivia section.--Ukdan999 17:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

On one arm, he has a 'XI' tattooed and othe other arm, he has the names of his wife and kids (big fan of Angelina Jolie, I suppose!!)

[edit] England Captaincy

I added the succession box for the England captaincy. This was subsequently removed with a note 'not appropriate when not appointed permanently'. This would be fair enough except that I was only adding Flintoff to be consistent with other successions on the chain. Most notably Geoffrey Boycott who was only appointed after injury to Mike Brearley who then returned later. For consistencies sake either Geoffrey Boycott needs removing from the captaincy succession or Andrew Flintoff needs adding. My personal opinion is that the succession should be for test captains and if you captain England in a Test match then you should be included.

I think it ought to be reinstated - the way the ECB statement read the other day, it sounds like his appointment is permanent. Besides, it doesn't look like Vaughan is coming back does it? Istartfires 16:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Since Vaughan has been ruled out for AT LEAST six months (probably more like twelve months), it makes sense to change the captaincy box over to Flintoff. Whatever 'the rules' say about the appointment needing to be permanent before such a step is taken, I think everyone ought to take stock of the reality of the situation. I see it thus; Flintoff (barring the first test at Lords tomorrow and God forbid another injury) will be leading the England side for at least six months, maybe twelve, maybe permanently. To all intents and purposes, he is now the England captain. It is no disrespect to either Vaughan or 'the rules' to change the captaincy box over. So I have. Istartfires 16:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC) - I copied this over from the Michael Vaughan page to clear up any discrepancies.

[edit] All-rounder or Genuine All-rounder?

"he is widely regarded as the best all-rounder in the modern game, rivalled only by Jacques Kallis." I think it would be better and more accurate if Flintoff was described as the best genuine allrounder in the game, because Jacques Kallis is obviously not a genuine all-rounder, and Flintoff and Kallis are REALLY different types of players. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikiwizard1 (talk • contribs) 07:12, 17 May 2006.

The question of whether Kallis is 'obviously' an all-rounder or not should be brought up at Talk:Jacques Kallis rather than here, I think. Since Kallis has better Test and first-class averages in both batting and bowling than Flintoff, we should probably be a bit careful throwing the 'genuine' tag around. --Nick Boalch 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

As any cricket fan will tell you averages only tell you so much. Kallis is the better batsman by a distance and Flintoff the better bowler by a distance. The difference is Flintoff can win a game with either, Kallis will very rarely win you a game with the ball. Kallis simply bullies the poorer teams with his bowling to keep his average respectable, when Kallis matches Flintoff's heroics against the likes of Australia then we'll consider him on the same level, until then he can be simply considered a batsman that bowls. UncleTheOne

[edit] Brother

Can someone confirm that this edit is correct. I checked it in a book shop. From a quick glance and from the index, I found only one brother. Tintin (talk) 12:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent vandalism

I've removed a couple of "humorous" references to the Fredilo incident added by 89.101.44.225. Apepper 17:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Does it need semi-protection ? Its been vandalized quite often Wildpixs 11:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

Can someone please fix the 'References' section? It's become messy. The footnotes are impossible to read.

Ok, looks like I've fixed it myself. It looks ok now. Hope no one messes with it again.

[edit] World Cup 2007

I've removed a reference about the Fredalo incident during the Would Cup in which Fred was stripped off the vice-captaincy (according to the BBC, Michael Vaughan was responsible for it) but it was never confirmed by anybody. So, considering it as a 'flying' story, I decided to remove it....hope Fred's learnt his lesson.-div123

[edit] Third child???

The 'Family' section says that Rachael Flintoff is expecting the couple's third child in April 2008. I haven't been surfing the net for quite a while now but I do not recall reading any auch news at all. Can someone please confirm or deny this story?? Thanks - div123. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.91.208.146 (talk) 06:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)